Muller Dynamo

[CLaNZeR]

Hello CLaNZeR

I am keen to discuss the speed increase under load. I have my motor running and I am very impressed with the way it works as Romero pointed out.
the magnets and washers do improve things about 70%.

I was able to get my out put voltage up to 48 volts from my drive coils at 1300 RPM.

Is it possible  the washers and magnets on top of Romeros motor
focus the magnetic field like a magnifying glass focuses the sun to a spot to increase its intensity. 

cheers

Hi toranarod

The Biasing magnets will increase the speed of the rotor, but they will also cause the driving coils to pull more current and hence more power.

But if you get the gap correct between the biasing magnet and the ferrite, the speed stays the same and the current pull stays the same them, you are onto a winner and a helping hand. This is why I think the washers are there, to allow you to move the magnets sideways, which will also effect how the drive coil behaves.

You really need to connect a current meter (even if just a cheap multimeter that reads current) in line with your supply and see if you can adjust/tweak your rig to get the best config.

Also a Tachometer.

Using these simple and cheap tools will tell you whether the biasing magnets are doing good or bad and allow you to adjust to the bet position.

The same goes for the output. Do one output at a time and get the best result, before moving onto the next.

If I get the rig finished this weekend, I will step through these tests.

If you are finding that your rotor is speeding up when you place a resistive load acros the pickup coils, then you are already on a really good path mate.

Cheers

Sean.

[Scorch]

Some of you might be interested in this.

If you are going to replicate RomeroUK's original build, and are using sewing bobbins, you might be able to use this portable bobbin winder that hobby lobby sells for $30.

See:
http://shop.hobbylobby.com/products/sidewinder-portable-bobbin-winder-400580/

I figure I can just use my sewing machine to wind bobbins but this portable winder might be a good solution for those who don't have access to a sewing machine.

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[hartiberlin]

Hello CLaNZeR

I am keen to discuss the speed increase under load. I have my motor running and I am very impressed with the way it works as Romero pointed out.
the magnets and washers do improve things about 70%.

I was able to get my out put voltage up to 48 volts from my drive coils at 1300 RPM.

Is it possible  the washers and magnets on top of Romeros motor
focus the magnetic field like a magnifying glass focuses the sun to a spot to increase its intensity. 

cheers

Sounds great toranarod,
could you please post a video of your device, if it is possible ?

Many thanks in advance.
Regards, Stefan.

[TEKTRON]

ZeroFossilFuel is doing a great job and even though he has mentioned my name in his videos, stating that you do not need expensive machinery, he has to remember that I started out years ago, exactly where he is, having to use whatever hand tools I had to hand to build the best I could.

Over the years and after spending nearly every spare penny I have on tools that would allow me to do more accurate job, I have indeed built up some handy gadgets, but that does not mean it cannot still be done by hand.
Some call this hobby madness/obsession, some call it dedication. But using the tools I have to hand to do a more accurate job and I will adapt them and use them to do any job, if it makes it easier and more accurate.

I am confused though whether ZeroFossilFuel is doing the Muller replication or Romero's version of the Muller machine?

If it is the Romero version then why is he getting jumpy on the video, putting people down for straying from the specs, when his replication is also away from the specs?.

If it is the Muller replication then I am looking forward to the way he will wind his coils and also the way he will do the complicated switching that Muller used.

If it is the Romero replication then, yep we are all off a little here and there, but also so is he.


I pointed out on a thread over on my forums

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Mullers original had the following differences to Romero's:

Muller: Rotor magnets were set N/S facing up.
Romero's: All the same way.

Muller: Every Coil was used as a pulse and pickup coil which was controlled via a rotary switch system.
Romero's: Two coils are used for driving then rest always connected as Pickups.

You could easly configure the Romero version to do the same switching as Muller, by using a Encoder disk and a Pic Chip.

Muller: Had amorphous cores
Romero's: Has ferrite cores.

Muller: Used 2 different wires and wound in cone shapes.
Romero's: Standard back and forth using multi strand litz wire.


Apart from that, they are pretty close. The Muller is a bit more hassle to get right and if Romero's config does work then why not replicate that and make life easier !
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I personaly do not care how people choose to replicate it, because it is the effect we are trying to replicate and there are probably many paths to the same effect.

It is the taking part that counts and if just one person hits upon an anomaly, with whatever configuration, then it becomes interesting.

There is no manual for this stuff as taught physics tell you, it will not work.

I think all the guys in here replicating are doing a great job and their skills are shining through.

Even if your rotors are not 100% wobble free, it does not matter. You are building a machine to find an effect that Romero claims to of found. You do not need Nasa/Military accuracy here, if the effect does infact exist.

I try to get my rigs as balanced and accurate as I can, but you will still see wobble, you will still see uneven cuts. But it does the job for what I need it for.

You do not need to build a rig that will run for 10 years, that is not your goal. Your goal is to build a rig that will last long enough for you to find the effect you are searching for.

So replicators, if you got a bit of a wobble or if a Cereal box is all you had to hand at the time, then please use it and notice that the people critising your builds, do not even try to build and are the last people that have the right to judge your rig.

Getting off the soap box

Cheers

Sean.

He is doing Romero's n_n_n with Muller step wound coils. 12 mm ferrite 1inX1in coils, step wound.

[hyiq]

It is easy to pick the serious from the non serious.

ZeroFossilFuel has, and is doing an excellent job. I have a few different projects on the go, but think RomeroUK's work is superb and he is genuine all the way. Anyone that doubts RomeroUK's Work, has not done their home work as we know. I plan to replicate RomeroUK's work after some of my current projects are out of the way.

Everyone is doing a good job. Remember to keep the same principals and ideas, keep it in-line with RomeroUK's work to get the best result. Get it working first. Then play around with it to try to improve it. The Wire is the one place I see most are not inline. Multipal Filar Wire (Litz Wire) is important. Each Filar in Litz Wire has unique properties that a single Filar Wire does not. Make your own Litz Wire if needed.

Test: Take a spool of Litz Wire, Measure one Filars DC Resistance, Then Measure two Filars, together, and so on. See what you get. The DC Resistance will drop by half, for each Filar that is added. Plus with a single Filar there are more problems with self inductance between the windings and so on.

Thumbs up from me everyone. Dont pay any attention to the nae sayers. They dont warrant any time and resources. Everyone is doing an excellent job.

Keep up the good work for the good Fight!

All the Best

  Chris