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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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chrisC

Quote from: CLaNZeR on May 31, 2011, 02:13:31 PM
Thanks for the kind words, but I am confused a little here.

Do people not listen to the sound in the video?

My email box is full of advise, full of crytics and full of people that even think what they see on the video is a self runner ???

So can we please get this straight.

That video was a test run, I had just spent 3 days finishing the Top Plate, Rotor, Axle and wiring it all up. It was getting on towards midnight and I wanted to do a test run and simply post a video showing it run.

It is not a self runner, there is a bloody big battery on the video and a current meter connected to it?
And yep it is a multimeter but it was not showing the voltage of 33 volts or even 600 volts like someone suggested, are some people mad??? Multimeters can do more than measure just voltage.

The Hall sensors are not on their adjusters and have no way been tuned to get the best performance as well as the best position so they pull minimum current on the lowest voltage I can get away with.

The washers are washers to mount the biasing magnets on, they are not ring magnets. This was a test run and after the rig is tuned (which it is not at the moment) then I will add the biasing magnets.

The Rheostat is more than man enough to be a test load, it is wire wound and rated at 25 watts.

So in simple terms if by some miracle the output coils do put out 12 Volts after being rectified and with a load on it, we could still pull over 2 amps.
If as I suspect we will be lucky to get 5 volts out then we are safe to pull upto 5 amps out.
Lets put it this way, if I managed to burn out the Rheostat I will be jumping for joy :)


I have used the switching circuit that Romero used, I am sure there are better switching circuits and I personaly would rather use mosfets rather than transistors as we then either have a full on or a full off as such.
But I am using the same circuit as Romero's because this is meant to be a replication.

The coils as I have stated from day one are not exactly the same as Romero's as I had 7x0.250 wire arrive instead of the 7x0.125.
I have stated since winding the coils that they are not the same, but I am going to try them for now and re-wind some new coils, when I get time.
I think I even pointed this out on one of the videos?

I agree you can use two current meters to measure in and out, but you are getting an average current out.
Using a scope will allow us to take one or a number of pulses, with the true voltage and true current being measured for the time of that pulse.
We can then plot that and get a true figure of power over time.
The same for the output measurement, we snapshot the same time frame measuring the voltage and current and simply do a VxI to get power and plot over the time frame.


There are other things, but enough bleeting from me, just please will people read the forums.

Again thanks for all the support and sorry if I have not answered all the emails and PM's. It bad enough trying to find time to replicate, let alone anything else and also normal life gets in the way  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers

Sean.

@Clanzer
Real nice job. Thank you. Just ignore those bloody stupid bums who can't read nor understand what you wrote and explained. Oh, also ignore that User2718218 who is a mile too high from reality. Looking forward to next week's episode.

cheers
chrisC

scratchrobot

Quote from: powercat on May 31, 2011, 02:35:54 PM
Hi CLaNZeR
That's what happened to Romero, he got way too much attention and even feared for the safety of his family, so he got out quickly.
I guess if you make it self-run they will want to have your babies and make you emperor of the universe.
Good luck with your testing,  the quality of your engineering is A1

Good point! What to do if it can run itself?

@Neptune, You are right :(
@GLaNZeR, Nice build, even if it will not run itself to me it's a piece of art  ;)

I'm experimenting with the coil shortening with reed switch but no success so far.

scratchrobot

woopy

Hi everybody

Romero sayd that the MOST IMPORTANT THING FIRST IS TO GET A GOOD GENERATOR  and not too much concentrate on the  driver.

The driver can be anything with good enough efficiency to be overcome by the GENERATOR POSSIBILITY.

So far i can see, Romero did not spoke of any shorting of the coils or in the generator or in the driver coils.

So please stay on topic .

We are searching  the aim of improving the GENERATOR possibility and probably with biasing magnet- or other means but not in a shorting of any coil ( so far i can see in the presented Romero's video )

And if you want to short the coils of the driver coils ,that is other and very interesting  threads to study this events.

So please lets stay on the basic problem here

How Romero seems to get a decrease in  INPUT AMPS when it adds a load on his system. ??

And of course the answer will surely not stand in conventional physic.  Very open solutions are available from  pure fake ( as Romero himself claimed ) to really amazing future ??

good luck at all

Laurent



scratchrobot

Quote from: woopy on May 31, 2011, 06:04:55 PM
Hi everybody

Romero sayd that the MOST IMPORTANT THING FIRST IS TO GET A GOOD GENERATOR  and not too much concentrate on the  driver.

The driver can be anything with good enough efficiency to be overcome by the GENERATOR POSSIBILITY.

So far i can see, Romero did not spoke of any shorting of the coils or in the generator or in the driver coils.

So please stay on topic .

We are searching  the aim of improving the GENERATOR possibility and probably with biasing magnet- or other means but not in a shorting of any coil ( so far i can see in the presented Romero's video )

And if you want to short the coils of the driver coils ,that is other and very interesting  threads to study this events.

So please lets stay on the basic problem here

How Romero seems to get a decrease in  INPUT AMPS when it adds a load on his system. ??

And of course the answer will surely not stand in conventional physic.  Very open solutions are available from  pure fake ( as Romero himself claimed ) to really amazing future ??

good luck at all

Laurent

I brought this up because of that basic problem! In his coil shortening video he shorts a generator coil completely and the rotor speeds up and that is our problem. On the other hand he also says that this was an invention by muller, maybe a combination of events and then there is the tuning.

Maybe you are right and it has nothing to do with this device.

Regards,
scratchrobot

toranarod

Hello all
I have many measurements watts current
I will share all measurement. I need some time to put them into a comprehensive format.

I have run the motor on 1 coil and 2 coils. On 50 volts, 12 volts 24 volts.
collected back emf. tried PWM timing, tried diffident coils may types of magnets on top under neath.
have seen some amazing results watched it do things I did not expect. I will make a video very soon.
after watching  CLaNZeR video I could see the RPM and Currents and volts. It was a very similar sight.  The High currents at those voltages are a worry.
if output can pass input it doesn't matter.

It has something to do with phase shift under load. I moved the phase by few  degrease by adding capacitance. this increase the output voltage by 35%
but the timing is still an issue I need to construct more electronics to run more test on this subject.  I think pulling current out at this right moment will
be an interesting experiment.     

the other point is there are still many test to do and configurations to try. its not over by any means. I work on.

I would like to hear from others with there results. Not theory and conjecturer black and white
recoded information.

Rod