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Overunity Machines Forum



Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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i_ron

Quote from: oscar on June 03, 2011, 02:30:46 AM
A similar effect has been reported by user Neight of energeticforum, see
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7982-muller-generator-replication-romerouk-7.html#post140982

Maybe those with complete test rigs (woopy, i_ron, etc.) can tune their generator coil biasing to this position/condition.

Sorry, not a complete test rig, just a coil pair. But opposing (NN) poles increase the voltage and attracting poles (SN) decrease the voltage, But the increase is only 2 or 3 %.

With the somaloy the 3mm thick magnet has to be in contact with the core.
Two magnets and the voltage starts to decrease.

Ron

i_ron

Quote from: REDCAR1957 on June 02, 2011, 09:50:07 PM
Woopy
did you use single strand wire?\
why not use litz wire as Romero did? 7 strands .125mm

I did two coils, one with litz and one with solid... the solid strand gave better results, 5 watts output versus 4.68 watts for the litz.

Ron

i_ron

Quote from: chessnyt on June 03, 2011, 12:40:18 AM
It just baffles me how people expect to get the same results as RomeroUK when they are not even using the same parts.  I'm getting ready to replicate a 1965 Ford Mustang.  Does anybody know where I can purchase Chevy parts for my Ford replication?  ::)

The difference is Chevy parts have different dimensions and don't fit. IF the diameter was the same and the thickness was the same and the spline was the same you could use a Chevy clutch in your Ford.

The problem with doing an "exact" Romero replication is we don't know the oxygen content of the wire...was it oxygen free?

What is the mH of a coil?

R admitted his coils all had different number of winds... what number should we use?

What grade are the neo magnets?

Do you have to run it outside, within earshot of the London underground, for it to work?

Only if you can tell us the exact specifications of Romero's build could anyone have a hope of an "exact" duplication. And this is an impossibility.

Ron

khabe

Quote from: i_ron on June 03, 2011, 11:16:04 AM
I did two coils, one with litz and one with solid... the solid strand gave better results, 5 watts output versus 4.68 watts for the litz.

Ron

Aught logical, Ron,
Thats correct,
Speakings about wonder higher performance or voltage growing when Litz used - this is just hubble-bubble. Litz or just stranded wire is neccessary when Lorentz forces based motor/generator, then wire must to be thinner at least than 0.4mm, as stronger magnetic field, as higher speed -  as thinner as better.
Thats all about Eddy losses when air core machine.  It does mot matter you wind ferrous core 50 turns using litz ot solid - voltage will be the same.
About current: wire cross area is what handles current, cross area of 0.125 wire is 0.012 mm2, when 7 strands then total 0.084mm2, adequate equivalent solid for 7 x 0.125  is 0.35 mm wire. Only high-level craftsman is able to wind into the same space the same number of turns with stranded wire in comparison with solid. With stranded, not twisted!  Someone compared 7 x 0.125 Litz with o.8mm solid wire - yeah perhaps outer diameter could be when cotton wrapped ... but 0.8mm solid wire handles four time stronger current than 0.35mm solid or 7 x 0.125 mm Litz   :o
There are many other reasons why, when and where to use Litz or stranded wire - nothing to do with announcements some members there continually "discovering". 
cheers,
khabe

eagerly awaiting at least some kind of results instead of tittle-tattle talkings  ::)

Magluvin

Hey Woopy

Did you have a cap on the output after the fwbr's in that last vid?

Mags