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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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nul-points

#2420
June 05, 2011, 12:45:16 AM
Quote from: penno64 on June 04, 2011, 03:58:48 PM
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I also feel, both drive coils are NOT working in attraction mode - but am yet to prove this.
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Kindest Regards, Penno

LOL 

when i pointed this out several days ago, based on photo evidence of the position of Romero's Hall sensors relative to their drive coils,  i got told i was "making stuff up"!!!  :)


Quote from: nul-points on June 01, 2011, 08:35:24 AM
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looking carefully at the still shots of Romero's device it appears that he only changed ONE drive coil to attraction mode and left the OTHER drive coil in repulsion mode

the sequence, looking from above, is 1st drive coil in repulsion mode, then 1st Hall sensor, then 4 gen coils, then 2nd Hall sensor, then 2nd drive coil in attraction mode

you can still see the hole in the top stator plate where the 2nd Hall sensor used to be and it is AFTER the 2nd drive coil (exactly like the 1st Hall sensor is AFTER the 1st drive coil)

originally both sensors would have been able to use the small mags on the rotor rim, because the relative position of each sensor was the same to its connected drive coil -AFTER TDC

but when Romero changed the 2nd drive to attraction he needed the sensor to fire BEFORE TDC, so he moved the 2nd sensor over the top of the rotor mag path, BEFORE the 2nd coil


so - this COULD mean that the two drive coils were firing either simultaneously, or at least very close in time
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np



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Here are a couple of Romero's Posts regarding firing.
Why is it some of you guys want to start making stuff up?  ???

"To do is to be" ---  Descartes;
"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
"Do be do be do" ---  F. Sinatra

oscar

#2421
June 05, 2011, 12:54:31 AM
Hi woopy, Lidmotor, penno64 and All

thanks for sharing.

Maybe the impedance needed on the load side of the circuit does not have to be provided by the main input battery nor by a cap.
Maybe any DC-source of the right voltage on the load side will produce the desired effect.

So I propose the following experiment:
Find  a battery with a lower voltage than what your generator coils supply to the load (under load). Connect this battery to the output side of your machines. It has to be connected anti-parallel as per woopy's circuit drawing in reply #2432 http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg289518#msg289518.

Again: the voltage of the 'opposing output-side battery' needs to be less, than what the coils produce under load. To make such an output-side battery of the desired strength, small batteries can be connected in series.
The transmission was a '53 (Johnny Cash)

Bruce_TPU

#2422
June 05, 2011, 01:04:38 AM
Quote from: penno64 on June 05, 2011, 12:06:02 AM
@woopy,

Untill I get the video camera -

1.  20v @ 200ma  + 6.8uf ac cap = 1800rpm

2.  20v @ 400ma no cap = 1630rpm

Great job Penno64!  A huge find that ALL replicators should take note.  Did you randomly choose the 6.8 uf value, or have you tuned it to resonance, to match the frequency of the pulse to the output coil?  That may result in interesting results as well. 

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

woopy

#2424
June 05, 2011, 06:24:13 AM
Hi Penno

Le loup sort du bois :D

Bravo man now i see better.
You know as i am far from being an expert ,for me it is very difficult to imagine what the people are saying. And that  especially when the problem is not very clearly explained, and even in this case it stays difficult. So i prefer seing the things.
Nice built and waiting for your result under load.  Excuse my somehow rude words from yesterday i was just a little nervous after a complete day of trial and error and having fried 4 reostats . But today is another day and i go on and wish you all the best Thanks

@Free

bravo hehe always more replicators and hopefully more results ;)

@Gyula
thanks for the resistor advice i began with a 470 ohms and it is better. But always very far from Romero. will try to optimise the driving circuit with other resistors, Thanks

@Oscar

Thanks for the prop will test it also

And bravo to all other not known replicators, perhaps one will crack the trick and report ? ::)

good luck at all

Laurent
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