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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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teslaalset

@scratchrobot and xenomorphlabs,
Thanks for the Kromrey references. Need some time to digest this stuff.
Time is always in the way ;)

The more I dive into this, the more I get convinced this is only related to the proper delay of BEMF.

konehead

In Romeroukmuller machines, what could be happening is that the timing of the event of the instant-flipped-over polarity in the cores from those magnets behind cores of the genrator coils into that single collector/run-cap he has is not ever in synch - never happens same time - with the timing of the motor coil pulses from that cap when it LOOPS....so think of the polarity-flip of cores as an input "pulse" to the capacitor (sort of) and think of the motor coil being connected periodically to the capacitor too, as an output pulse too, from the capacitor, and neither every happens at same time which is ideal thing to happen....

so neither happens at same time and so it is sort of just like a "two-stage" or "flip-flop/seesaw output circuit combined with cap-discharge-to motor coils....

AND, what he doesnt report about since it "just happens" and  is a "natural" unswitched-thing, is that the magnets behind the cores will "induce" or smack head-on the exisiting-polarity of the coil to the now-opposite polarity of the core;
and this polarity-flip of cores of course is caused by the distance and strength of the regauging/helper magnets to the cores and is relative to the rpms and load on the genrator coils......
So, when the core-polarity flips over suddenly at that PEAK PERIOD, before the coil has time to react to this magnetic flux smack-in-the-face the coil collapses (gets knocked out for a bit)...and this works very similar to a "switched" coil-short, which is a quick COLLAPSE of the coil...(also coil-short works works just the same as TESLA SPARK GAP but that is other subject)

it must be the peak period when core-polarity flips, so the core will fling the rotor magnets away and increase power and speed when coils load up into the resistance....what the "tuning" of those magnets is all about is to make them flip core-polarities at just that time - whem magnets are about TDC to coil's core...and not only that, but the double-bonus is that the  core-flip acts very similar to a "switched' coil-short and increases voltage from the coils too - current remains the "SAME" (not less) since current wil only "be seen" when cap hits the load (no resistance no current)...if you have same current and double voltage you have double the watts/power.

so romero doesnt report about any coil-shorting, since he is not intentionally  switching it, but the "tuning" of the "regauging/helper" is, and he definetley reported about that.

this is all konehead-world sub-scientific theory right now, but it might be true  in what is going on...

in nutshell;
1) magnets behind cores both increase power and speed of rotor, IF polarity-flip of cores is tuned to occur at TDC of rotor magnet to coil, and also increases voltages into the collector/run capacitor since it collapses the coil for instant, similar to coil short.
2) the configuration of the odd vs even Muller-type magnetic rotor and coils is ideal, since the genrator coils having  their cores flip their polarities, and the discahrge of the capacitor to the motor coils never happens same time...


Also, seems like good way to test those magnets behind the cores and tune them, would be a 2nd identical motor ......

Tudi

Seen to many videos lately :
1) Some say that the speedup is because without the load, you are somehow limiting the electron flow in the wire ( only local eddy currents appear that are "small" ). With load, you are converting more mechanical energy to electron movement. For this faster rotation speed more energy is taken by the motor. Just imagine that your generator has a COP 0.35 in normal mode and when you put a load it jumps to COP 0.75. I really hope this is wrong, there are generators that are close to COP 1 without load, and the speedup does not consume more input power. Worst case this speedup can be used to cool down some heat pump element that is already COP 4.
2) Some say coil shorting only converts a "long" spike to a short but high spike. The energy amount is not changing only the voltage. I hope this is wrong because of the inertia effect of the spike = at each shorting the peak value will be just a bit bigger then the potential difference that is created due to the shorting.

nul-points

hi all

some important new insight into the implications of Romero's scope trace

i've posted details over at the 'MD for experimentalists' thread:

  link-->http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10716.msg290039#msg290039

cheers
np


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toranarod

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on June 08, 2011, 12:52:19 AM
What I get from Vicktor Schauberger is that water current is similar to electrical current in its general properties.

I know that the pressurized release of water is more powerful than more loosely flowing water...AND that the pressurized release of water is pulsed is far more powerful than a steady stream of pressurized water.

I also seem to recall that Tesla believed the capacitor to be the key to free energy.

To me it appears that the bang of a dead short and collection of the fall out may be less efficient than build up of potential.

Just my thoughts and objective once I am able to start on Clanzer's experimental unit...I wouldn't be too too disappointed if someone here were to beat me to it.

After all, we are all a 'Johnny come lately' in this field of research...once its done, it will not matter anyway.

Regards...

I also seem to recall that Tesla believed the capacitor to be the key to free energy. I am starting to think the same. Go Back to the EV gray Motor.

the coil shorting experiments lead me to this conclusion. HI current low voltage and convert it the voltage again into a capacitor. with no load on the drive system.  this is where todays test have concluded.

this is the wave form of the coil shorting test. the voltage goes over 200 volts when collected into a capacitor.