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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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bolt

Go look up thrapp 900 watt generator on youtube.   The DC motor is alike the pulse motor it simply turns the rotor. It can be ANYTHING.

The thrapp generator is wired so each pole is OUT OF PHASE. It makes no current in the conventional sense.

Behind that generator is a big  box of caps wired across the o/p of the generator to form a very large REACTIVE power source LUG FREE.

For 900 watts o/p there will be around 9 KVAR's  in circulation once the generator hits the correct resonance speed. In series with the loop is a diode plug and inverter system to convert the VARS to WATTS at 120VAC and 60Hz.  This is alike Romero's DC to DC converter its doing the same job.

This is because the generator itself is not running at 60hz nor is it powering the load directly. One of the lamp holders loops power post inverter stabilised to 120v and takes it back to the motor for driving the generator..== LOOPED


phoneboy

@Bruce_TPU & RomeroUK, haven't built anything yet but I think I get where you're going. Its just like what Naudin did with the miniromag gen? http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mromexp.htm except you were using two coils? Quote "A simple diode has been used to short the back EMF part, and you can notice that the rotor speed remains constant...." So to bypass lenz, we don't use/cancel the induced EMF and use the energy/spike from the collapsing field?

e2matrix

Quote from: Magneticitist on June 11, 2011, 11:33:10 AM
aside from the fact that the Coil A and Coil B experiment has already been tried many times without success, but still assuming it IS indeed the "solution", it sure took a good 190 pages worth of forum thread to get that small paragraph out..

"connect this coil like this and the other one like this through these diodes, see?"

Romero seems to agree with the statement, but my GOD it took long enough to spit it out lol

Quote from Romero: "All these requires a lot of patience and I am sorry to say it but not all of you have that."   ;)

Thank you Romero for continuing sharing all you have learned from your years of patient building and note taking!   

And thanks to Bruce_TPU for sharing your ideas on this.  I'm sure you have learned a lot from all the time spent in building TPU's and I have confidence in your thoughts on this.  Sounds like I'm going to be well stocked on diodes by the time I get through this ;)

And thanks to bolt too for your insights on how all this works even if I have trouble understanding it I hope to get it eventually.  I always thought the Thrapp gen was a real working device and that would seem to explain it.  Sounds like we are on the right track here. I wish for you to be able to have a lab setup where you could do some builds with all your knowledge.  Keep your mind open to opportunities where this could happen.


maw2432

Quote from: k4zep on June 11, 2011, 08:07:08 AM
Thanks Romero,

I have been very quiet lately, working my butt off on my motor.  I have it running now, no generator coils as that is the next step.
Have taken all you have said to heart, answered  a lot of questions I had and theories I had worked up.  The motor runs from 4.5VDC to 18VDC +, The driver is JUST a hall effect, nothing more, air cores, @ 12VDC, only draws about 21mA when up to speed @ 1500 or so RPM.
So quiet you can hear the air rushing by the rotor which is made out of CD-R disc., per my friend Ossie.  Thanks for coming back.  Patience on this device is a must, you must almost be "driven" to work on it.....I took the clean low power way with my smaller device.
Anyway, Stay around, oh, you mentioned Zener diodes, at  less than 12VDC, a diode chain will produce a shunt regulator too.  Simple, efficient.  Picture of the "Art" I am working on,  sitting on desk, running on 9VDC battery.

Respectfully,
Ben K4ZEP

Ben,   Very nice work.   
I like the idea of "The driver is JUST a hall effect"
Very simple and easy pulse motor. 
Now you can focus on the generator part.
I am doing similar experiments. 

Bill 


poynt99

Quote from: romerouk on June 11, 2011, 07:25:42 AM
Simple Example:
we have a rotor with NSNS and 2 coils, one to drive the rotor and one to collect.
the collector coil must have a core, any type but not air.
run it and measure the output of the collector and current going into the input coil
now to the end of the collector coil attach another core same type with the one used for the collector coil, same lenght too.
check the in and out - any change? good or bad?
check attaching only half lenght core - measure again ???
what about longer core.... measure again...
what about larger...?

Do you remember that youtube video posted by gotoluc some time back where he moved a magnet in front of the 2 microwave transformer coils? Well, that was a good inspiration for me and took it further. All I can say now is, thank you gotoluc!

that is enough for now

Best Regards to all,
Romero

So I would surmise Romero, that you have discovered a way to make a coil of special configuration and/or connection, that utilizes an alternating magnetic field presented to the face of its core, in such a way that loading this special coil has little to no effect in terms of causing drag on the rotor (alternating mag field) or cemf within itself?

Does the next logical step then involve taking advantage of the same effect by means of direct juxtaposition of the drive coil and collector coil, thus eliminating the rotor and magnets all together?

.99
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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