Muller Dynamo

[Jdo300]

Jason,

Did you try the sweep again but this time with the pancake coils wired in series-adding? If so, what was the pk/pk voltage at resonance?

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Ok, I went ahead and reran the test again so I could take the measurements a bit more accurately. I drove the center winding and tuned the two outer coils to resonance with and without a cap, and also with the two outer coils connected in series adding and series canceling. Here's the results:

Series Adding (with 4.7nF Cap)
Input: 17.19 Vpk/pk
Output: 15.94 Vpk/pk
Freq: 427.4 kHz

Series Adding (without 4.7nF Cap)
Input: 12.5 Vpk/pk
Output: 125 Vpk/pk
Freq: 2.8 MHz

Series Canceling (with 4.7nF Cap)
Input: 22.81 Vpk/pk
Output: 128.1 Vpk/pk
Freq: 161.3 kHz

Series Canceling (without 4.7nF Cap)
Input: 16.25 Vpk/pk
Output: 155.6 Vpk/pk
Freq: 1.66 MHz

It's interesting to note again that the Q of the tank is significantly higher in the canceling configuration and without a tank capacitor. Also of interest is the fact that the resonant frequencies are lower when in canceling mode. This is probably due to the increased capacitance between the coils.

- Jason O

[Jdo300]

Note: As a matter of on topic or not and deletions, I am adult enough to handle all sides of an issue, I don't live in denial if reality does not go my way. Thusly, I don't understand how the truth -either way- could be considered to be non-helpful for research on this or any other device.  If we are all chasing a phantom that never truly existed though, if it was indeed 'augmented', wouldn't you want to -really- know? Certainly it's not preferable to go on believing in something if there was some misapplied passion somewhere.

AG

The issue isn't weather or not the information should be posted. The problem is that this is not the appropriate thread to post such information. There are other threads in this section devoted to these discussions. Thus, this is a distraction from the real research and progress that is being made here and should be moved elsewhere at the least.

- Jason O

[stAtrill]

@Artist_Guy
The problem with your view is that you will consider these ventures failures if OU is not achieved. I dont know how long you've been following this thread, but Ive been lurking since roughly page 136. Ive been waiting for the same reason as you -  to see if anyone else saw any useful results - and Ive been here to see the original few replicators get their parts, build their machines, and lose faith due to no apparent OU-related effects. Ive also seen every single one of these original replicators (after some tuning) achieve acceleration under load or due to coil shorting (As you know, both are precursors to beating lenz).

Just seeing these small successes is enough for me to think there's something more to this here. As any of the replicators will tell you, even if we never find OU, we have already learned a great deal more than we ever would have if we all merely sat on the sidelines shouting 'HOAX!'

As to the 'wire X', you can always find something if you look hard enough for it. I can take a picture of my backyard and we can all analyze the ambient digital noise until we find everything from hidden unicorns to lawn gnomes.

@the replicators
A big wave from the eastern US. I cant wait to get started.

[konehead]

If any of you have air cores for the gernator coils like Jason O does, there is fellow named "John Stout" who discovered the magnet-behind cores trick long ago (he gave the idea to John Bedini and now JB has an adjsutable sliding magnet inside the backside of his cores in his motor-patent...JS said JB called him up to thank him years ago JS told me)...
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Anyways I asked JS a couple weeks ago if the "helper magnet" trick (JS calls it a reguaging magnet) can be done with aircores...and he says he thinks so not sure but if so, you would need a steel ferrous washer for sure on the backside of the coil - so maybe bigger than usual washer back there and you might be able to  get the same speed up effect or near same effect with aircores.

Also on my romero-like test-rig a magnet on backside of my single MOTOR coil drops amp draw from 400ma to 200ma at 24V input so it does work on motor coils nicely for sure I am convinced.

I read Bolts theory on why the speed up thats all very good - and in addition to that, here is what John Stout told me;

the core doesnt immediatly "go back" to neutral polarity after the coil around it is energized, and/or the core too is energized by passing magnet in generator coil's case - the core will stay at the polarity that it was just energized at, depends on core mateiral but might take a second or even a minute for it to go back to complete-neutral/default. 
The backspike of backemf doestn have enough current in it to flip polarity of the core either.
so what happens is on APPROACH of next magnet in rotor, the core will clash with it,. and try and push the next rotor magnet backward (this is repulsive mode)
in Attraciton mode, as in the gernator coils wer are dealing with, the core will try and pull back the rotor magnet after the rotor magnet passes....so you find balance of strenght to the helper/regauging magnet so that it has that core on a teeter-totter and will flip polarity right at TDC and give it a shove in right direction - so there are TWO bonuses, cancellezation of the pull-back or clash against rotation, and also a nice free shove too......
One thing is that the entire core must not be polarized by that back magnet, sp just like the last portion of it is all you want: 1/4 or maybe no more than 1/2 of it, so that it will flip polarity easy - I think this is the big reason for the steel washers - it sort of compresses or guides or shortens the field of the helper/regaauging magnet so it wll only have effect on the end-portion of the core, next to the helpre/regauging magnet,  so that is also why you would need that washer on aircores for sure.

I think you guys all know this already just writing about it again on aircores subject...

[hoptoad]

snip...

... but look at the double cap experiment again... the output went from 1.152 watts to 3.57 watts and the input stayed at .04 amps!!! thats a three times increase of output with the same input. Now admittedly this is with a transformer. But I think the basic principle will still apply.

I thought that would bring a smile to your face!

Ron

Edit: and .04A is still one half the unloaded draw of .08A!!!

Confused us says - less is more.! 

Cheers and KneeDeep