Muller Dynamo

[mariuscivic]

Yes, it's speeds up, but there is a drop in the output power

[David70]

Hi,
about a week ago I called Romero for the second time and asked him to point me to a direction where I can get close to OU or even OU and no connection to Muller as I understand we will never get more from him.He was kind enough to give me some indications that I folowed and I can tell you all my results.
What he said is to have a small rotor with magnets, any orientation, NN, SS or NS but to make sure I have at least 2.5 times the magnet diameter more space for the gap in between the each magnet, and 2 air core coils. He said this way I have nothing to slow down the rotor and is like i don't even have the coils there.
To drive the coil he pointed to a circuit that was posted by someone some pages back, circuit that was used initially to drive a pendulum.He said to keep the circuit as is and just change the transistors with BD139 and BD140 then if I have a scope look at the driving coil and drive it with no more than 6-7 volts.This circuit when in Off position recovers some of the BEMF even without a diode for that, that is strange to me.
I built the rotor, 8 magnets in NS orientation and the circuit and tested, it is only using 16ma to drive the rotor with 6 volts input. at about 900RPM.
Now the second part is how to get some power out without affecting the input or the rpm.
I made a bifillar coil 400 turns, I think is 0.3mm and connected like tesla suggested, the end of the first going to the begining of the second,this is what Romero suggested.
He also suggested something that I never heard, make a FWBR from superbright 4 LED's.I did that and connected to the coil and have a capacitor from one of the coil wires to the bridge.He said that I will need to try different capacitors because it depends on the coil.In my case I use 2 times 0.22uf/250v, in parallel.At the output of the bridge he suggested to connect a 1k potentiometer and start having it at the middle.
Now the fun started, I have the rotor in action and the LED's from the bridge are lit in sequence when I have slow speed, after that at higher speed all LED's are ON.
The first thing is that the input oscilates slightly from 16ma to 15ma but without the bridge it stays at 16ma.Adjusting the potentiometer I get slightly more speed and brightness and input goes to 14ma.
From here Romero said that I can add more LED's in parallel or make a chain of LED's then from 4 identical chains build the FWBR.I don't have enough LED's to make that experiment now but I wil get some.For me even getting cheap LED's is not easy, my income is a small pension that I need to look after.
In the final Romero said that making a FWBR and for each segment I add a resistor or a coil will open a path to even more discoveries. I am not sure he was talking about using normal diodes or LED's in this configuration.
I am posting this here and maybe someone can do the same build and confirm all  other suggestions

David

[Tudi]

@David70 : thank you for sharing that. Many people managed to get the effect for 1 coil. But the output they got was smaller then the input. And adding a second coil did not help. We will wait for your test results regarding the discoveries you might make in the future.
By the way, any info on the output ? You mentioned the input but mostly nothing of the output.

@mariuscivic : we are doomed ? Sounds like there is no magic ? instead of output the input power gets converted into rotation speed ?

[David70]

@Tudi
I don't have any output, the LED's are the output and all 4 are fully lit.How much  a superbright led draws? I was thinking how many led's I can add then make some calculations and compare with the input.

[oscar]

Hi mariuscivic

I have watched your videos and see that you power your unit from a PC powers supply.

Did you ever try to use a 12V battery (car battery) as the primary driving source?

Did you ever try to loop back the output to the battery as romerouk explained?

..... from the output bridge rectifier I am using one diode to send power back to the battery ...

(Note: I think this won`t work with your "regulated power supply". You need to use a battery to try this).

I suggest to do this because it is not a good idea to directly use up all the power from the generator coils in your load (light bulb). Please connect the generated power from the coils back to the battery, as Romero did in his first video (non-self-runner video) and as woopy shows here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg291692#msg291692

This should boost the input voltage above the battery's normal supply voltage. So the machine should run faster than without that connection and consequently produce more power through more speed.

woopy tried it, as far as I understand and liked it. And why should he have posted this schematic for the second time?

Good luck to all.