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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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bolt

Quote from: duff on June 24, 2011, 06:08:03 PM
I think it had to do with magcoaster since he used biasing magnets in the world patent...



It doesn't matter if a patent exists already anyone  is allowed to reproduce anything for private use. Secondly back-end magnets is prior art full public discloser around 10+ years ago Kone knows all about this stuff and  this pre-dates magnacoaster by a long time. In fact most stuff today is granted a patent and its up to the patent holder to defend the title even IF prior art exist and it usually does!! Concept is used to make controversy and controversy means courts and 1 million dollars cases for the smallest arbitration is VERY good money earner. Can you afford 3 years in court? The only people that can defend patents are the largest blue-chip companies the entire  thing is a scam soon as people wake up to this the better.

e2matrix

Quote from: penno64 on June 24, 2011, 06:08:03 PM
Guys, keep your pants on.

I have pm'ed Romero to ensure we will not be causing him any more grief.

Soon as I have a response, I'll let you know what I've found.



Penno

No!  I'm rippin' them off right now  ... ;)    No really though I don't want any stress for R either but if you have figured this out yourself and as you said 'how long before others find this too' why do you need to check in with R before letting the cat out of the bag?  And at this point it's only speculation on your part without validation from R so let's have the scoop on what you think is going on.   You aren't R's whippin' boy are you?   


   don't take the last one too serious ;)

i_ron

Quote from: Magluvin on June 24, 2011, 06:19:19 PM
Yes.  The flat spot is when the rotor mag is not near the coil any more.   
As the mag approaches the coil, its field is attracted to the core. So any movement of the mag causes those field lines, attracted to the core in concentration, to cut the windings causing current in the whole winding, even though the field is only cutting one side of the coil. When the mag passes center, its field is still attracted to the core and now the field lines are cutting the windings on the others side of the coil. Same direction, same field crossing the windings, thus causing the currents to be induced in the opposite direction in the coil as a whole.

Isnip
This is all very basic, yet some dont realize it.  ;]

Mags

Mags

You are confusing the issue here. The flux is not attracted to the winding, it is attracted to the core, in round coils. The core imposes this changing flux field on the coil. When the flux is building up as the magnet approaches you get one polarity of sine and when the flux field is diminishing as the magnet retreats then the falling flux makes the opposite sine. When the magnet is at TDC there is no voltage induced as there is no motion of the fully built up flux field.

Sides of the coil only apply to air cored coils, or long windings as in the window motor or alternator.

Ron

Magluvin

Quote from: i_ron on June 24, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
Mags

You are confusing the issue here. The flux is not attracted to the winding, it is attracted to the core, in round coils. The core imposes this changing flux field on the coil. When the flux is building up as the magnet approaches you get one polarity of sine and when the flux field is diminishing as the magnet retreats then the falling flux makes the opposite sine. When the magnet is at TDC there is no voltage induced as there is no motion of the fully built up flux field.

Sides of the coil only apply to air cored coils, or long windings as in the window motor or alternator.

Ron

Nope. You are.  read the second line of my post you quoted.   "attracted to the core"

Mags

maw2432

Quote from: penno64 on June 24, 2011, 06:08:03 PM
Guys, keep your pants on.

I have pm'ed Romero to ensure we will not be causing him any more grief.

Soon as I have a response, I'll let you know what I've found.



Penno

I hope you can at least tell us if there is some OU magic thing to this or not.
Patent lawyers do not normal come out until someone is trying to make a profit
on someones product.  IP lawyers may be more threatening?   

Bill