Muller Dynamo

[dutchy1966]

In the pdf there is one pic of a coil which appears to have been soldered. It is a drive coil i believe. So is it a drive coil that gets this special wind? Or generator coils? Or both?
What would the benefit be to have the drive coil wound bifilar?

I would post the pic but i dont know how to get it out of the pdf.

Food for thought!

Hi,

I guess you mean this one....

Regards,

Dutchy

[freenergy850]

Yes, thats the one.
Thanks for posting the pic!

[LtBolo]

Most of those bifilar arrangements are just increasing turns, and as expected, increasing output voltage. Nothing interesting there.

The arrangement that Penno described is really just cap with series inductance that would be magnetically excited. There is no DC current path, only an AC pathway. Depending on the effective capacitance and inductance, it would act much like the circuit that Bolt proposed. Not sure of the implications of having the capacitance distributed down the coil, and the coil having no end to end current path...might help it work better.

The capacitance would be quite low. Not sure what the inductance would be. It would have a resonant/response frequency well above the excitation, again, necessitating the faster diodes.

As the rotor magnet passes the center of the generator coil core, there is a rapid reversal of current flow. The implied frequency of that transition and associated harmonic content is much higher than the actual excitation frequency. It may be that by the cap/inductor filter allowing only the high frequency energy, you don't end up with a meaningful Lenz. Ironically, that sounds like coil shorting done a different way.

[k4zep]

@K4ZEP . Romero made it very clear that the new machine operates on totally different principles to the Muller Dynamo . Therefore we can draw no conclusions about how the coils are wound . We can not afford guys of your calibre to quit now!

Hi Neptune,

Not quitting, just in a heck of an analyzing mode, using my head and not my wire right now.  Have already tried bifilar, trifilar,  quadfilar in all combos a couple weeks ago and except for voltage doubling or tripling, etc.,  or current addition depending on how they are wired, nothing new and they all had LENZ....... BUT did not try shorting one set.  Will try that later today.  Spent all morning cleaning up my storage area and then shop, will get back on motor tonight.  My small work area piles up quickly until I have to say "Uncle" and clean up!

With Romero's motor, with the low ohmage coils, I can see how he is drawing about 10-12 watts when running, even higher starting.  His motor looks entirely normal with the voltage and current seen.  His Lenz secret is the only thing eluding all of us.  In reality the 2 ohm coils in series or 4 ohms, with 11.5 V, not counting drops in all that mess of wiring to the motors, would peak almost 3 amps/per unit until
it starts running and back EMF and inductive reactance kicks in.

Respectfully,

Ben K4ZEP

[e2matrix]

Yesterday, shortly after penno64 said he thought he might have figured it out and was going to contact romero, and before he came back to us with this idea that the litz wire, and how it is connected, is essential, I received an e-mail from the forum on my i-phone notifying me I had a pm from romero (in response to a pm I had sent him). The text of the message was included in the e-mail along with a link to the pm. So I clicked on the link, and the text there was the same as the text in the e-mail.

No big deal,

But when I got home, got on my computer, and came here to the forum, I HAVE no new pm from romero, which is kind of weird is it not? Anybody have a clue how THAT could happen?

Reading between the lines of his message, I sincerely believe that HE believes someone here has the answer. penno, I hope it is you. It would be nice to have all the pieces of the puzzle on the table so all we have to do is put it together, instead of feeling like there is one piece in the box that was taken away.

romero has his reasons for keeping his silence, I am sure. I can only wish him and his family the very best and thank him for what he was able to share with us. I hope, if we ever DO figure this out, that all of us will remember who it was that started us down this particular branch of this particular path all of us have been on in our search for a better source of energy production.

Possibly by reading it that way it was marked as read thus no new messages when you got here.  But it should not have been deleted here unless you have your settings set to delete upon read.  Any other details of importance in the message?