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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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Artist_Guy

Quote from: David70 on June 25, 2011, 07:36:58 PM
looking at the wires coming from the coils I can see some of them with 3 wires some with 2 and looks that some have 4. Is it me not seeing right or..?

@David70
I think as to this picture a) RomeroUK mentioned that these were older coils using bolts as the cores and b) what looks like additional wires is the view of the wires below the plexiglass from the other side.

I blew it up 200 percent, ran high pass and edge filters, just looked at it a bit, seemed to be 2 wires, muddled by the dual layer visibility.


@Penno, etc

I am confused as to which wires of a 7 strand Litz should go where (FWBR) if doing fancy filar'ing.

Artist_Guy

Quote from: 4Tesla on June 26, 2011, 02:14:27 AM
Maybe because that is all he had.. I would think an equal 4/4 would be better.

You can get 8 strand Litz here:
http://www.surplussales.com/wire-cable/LitzWire.html

That's where I got my 7 strand, unfortunately, I don't have the money for any more parts, so must use the 7.

4Tesla

Quote from: Artist_Guy on June 26, 2011, 02:45:41 AM
That's where I got my 7 strand, unfortunately, I don't have the money for any more parts, so must use the 7.

If this IS what cancels lenz.. 3/4 or 3/3 with one unused would probably be fine.

k4zep

Hi All,

IF you brush up on DC/AC motor/generator theory and CEMF, two things become obvious.  One way or another, Romero is using a compensation winding in his coils that cancel most if not all of the CEMF in the generator side around a particular RPM/load setting.  This compensation energy is evidenced by the higher than normal motor current even in the low resistance coils as reflected into the rotor by the generator side. I suspect (theory) the portion of the windings used are very near the core of coil as it would most efficient at the peak of generator output and position of magnet during the same time period. It is also possible that all this is done by correct spacing of magnets and coils with X loading but that is a long shot.....

Somebody has to get a "hole in one" here sooner or later.  Romero's new theory might be damn the CEMF in the generator but use a portion of the output to overcompensate the motor side of the device with a compensation winding in the motor.  Enough of this hot air, back to cleaning shop and getting wife off my back so I can get back to work!

Respect to all
Ben K4ZEP

maw2432

Quote from: lumen on June 26, 2011, 12:07:12 AM
Ok, this could be the answer if you get this.
An 8 strand litz wire is wound as a regular coil and one end is soldered all 8 wires and is the ground connection.

The other end is separated into two wires with 4 in each wire. This makes 3 wires to the coil total.

When the magnetic field enters the core, current will flow and one 4 wire set will be + with respect to ground and the other will be - with respect to ground.
Because current is flowing in opposite directions down the 4 wire sets, Lenz will also be in opposite directions and is then cancelled.

You just use the two 4 wire sets to the FWB  along with 4 other diodes to ground? and you get zero Lenz effect.
This is very close to what works!

Is this not the same as a bifilar winding?   If you already have Litz wire wound on a coil, this looks like a good method to make the coil bifilar with no rewinding.   Cool idea!