Muller Dynamo

[plengo]

hands on top of motor increases output current.

Noise is very loud and annoying BUT it does get better as it gets into the correct RPM (resonance???). I listen to the noise level and as it gets louder I KNOW that it is about to break free and increase RPM and stop at the next level.

Sometimes it shows the pulsating effect one sees when modulating sounds with two sine waves, the beating effect. My mind tells me that the bias magnets and the rotor magnets AND the generator coil magnetic field are fighting each other in bucking mode and that's where the energy is definitely coming.

I know that by simply playing with the motor and "feeling" how it reacts to my experimentation. Move a bias magnet here and there and you will see what I mean. Another thing I noticed which is difficult to explain is when it starts vibrating like that the input power current meter start oscillating violently at about 50ma range. Which means that the generator coils are "feeling" the fight and forcing the input power to go down. Very strange.

It only happens when the noise level start getting really high and the vibration is shaking the whole table. There is more to this motor than we can see with our eyes and knowledge.

I can see by just playing with this motor, what Romero means when he says to go away from it. It is a long road here, not logical in terms of EE. For those EE only sitting on the chair, sorry you will never get it.

In my profession, software engineer (SE), there is nothing more scientific than what we do. Everything, I mean, EVERYTHING is measured, calculated and expected to the million of times we make the system run. When the system does not run as expected it is a big surprise. Usually those a know as production bugs, which can kill your job.

We have to look at things in a very scientific manner, study code and correlate action to a source. ALWAYS. So I do understand EEs guys. They work with things that "should" be repeatable and expected BUT , as in software engineering, if our models are wrong things will simply not work and production bugs will kill your job.

Guys like me, with the experience I have in the field of SE (25+ years), get to be valuable at work because of the fact that things "are not logical" most of the time and I find and fix production bugs really easily and fast. Other SE look at me and ask: How can you find those things?

I answer by simply saying that "computers are not logical". I see their faces in puzzlement and disbelief that I would have even the courage to say that, specially after 25+ years of experience. Off course computers are logical, BUT only to what we know. If you keep your mind focused on only what you know you will never fix production bugs. Take my word for it!!!

So I say the same to EEs. Don't look at this motor as something you can simulate and analyse easily, you can but don't start there, start at the experimentation (as if this is a production bug you must fix). You will learn a lot from it and also remodel your models.


Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2LOSQoZl0I
Fausto.

[maw2432]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNxopfbjCDI&NR=1

My friend jorge has now a running Muller using coils based on my Starship coil invention. I am building the same unit but much larger in size under contract but I am not allowed to post anything on the project. You can see jorge at the upcoming TeslaTech Expo in late July.

Richard
HHOforVOLTS

Richard,  thanks for the great post.  I did not know you were the inventor of the Starship coil.  That is great!
Tell us more about it if you can.   No core material?   Inductance high?  Advantages of the coil.  etc.   

Bill

[xenomorphlabs]

@Plengo:

Intuition in your work flow has shown you a nice way to get the best out of your device and i think also that if you did that with all the coils you would get close to Romero's performance.

I guess once more people have made working device and someone is willing to have it tested by a high tech lab, only then it can be explained what exactly causes the ZPE addition to the system with inductance measurements during operation etc.
Maybe it's even a combination of multiple factors such as vibrations of the magnets and the bucking coil current inhibition.
Once this is figured out, the principle could be ported to other device types or solid state.

Keep up your work and hopefully you can fix the damaged coil soon )

[mondrasek]

Guys like me, with the experience I have in the field of SE (25+ years), get to be valuable at work because of the fact that things "are not logical" most of the time and I find and fix production bugs really easily and fast. Other SE look at me and ask: How can you find those things?

Well said.  And it reminded me of this "urban legend" (from the Engineering world at least):

A senior ME retired.  Shortly after that, his previous employer asked him to help them on a consultant basis.  The previous employer had designed and manufactured a new machine that was not working properly.  They wanted the retired ME to help them determine what was causing the new machine not to operate as expected.

The retired ME agreed and came to examine the newly designed machine.  After examining it for a while he pulled out a marker and placed a big "X" on one of the components.  He then told the new machine Project Engineer that the "X" component was the problem.

Supposedly the problematic machine's "X" component was redesigned and the entire machine made usable for sale to end customers.

But the retired ME then invoiced his previous employer for $50,000!

When presented with this invoice the company's AP department replied with a letter demanding a "break down" (line item description) of the $50,000 charge.

The retired ME replied with a letter that read:

$1 for "X" mark
$49,999 for knowing where to place it."

The retired ME was paid in full.

M.

[Rawbush]

Just got home from work, going to play with my motor in the garage. Last night I was playing around with it and I am having issues with the 2 ohm drive coil pair, they want to much current. But on the flip side I have gained rpm from 2300 (old coils)to over 5000 rpm. I must admit that I get scared running it that fast with no protection from flung magnets.... But the bigger problem is that it is really heating up the transistor. My circuit is similar to what Romero used and his coils were low ohms (2?). Any ideas how to cool this puppy down without a micro controller? Also has it been determined that the bucking coils is the way to go? I have lots of testing to do, but first I must have a stable drive circuit, so that is what I will be working on first.
Peace
rawbush