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Overunity Machines Forum



Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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Magluvin

Im very impressed at this thread this late in the no go yet game, as far as Romeros device goes. Over 1250 reads since I first posted last night.  Im glad things seem to be progressing with these ideas.  ;]

Im working on testing Marius's setup tonight.  Its as simple as it gets.  ;]

Hey Marius, what were you thinking when you came up with this?  Its very good.  So simple, no bias mags, single strand wire on the coil.  Maybe there is room for improvements.
But I need to try it, and get the feel for it.
After im aiming for a no input orbo effect. This could not be done with the orbo toroid as there is no generation happening as the rotor passes.

Thanks Marius.  Very cool.  ;]

Mags

DeepCut

Thanks for sharing.

Is the bolt aluminium ?

I wonder what the results would be with a mild steel or soft iron bolt ?


DC.

konehead

Hi Magluvin

Maybe a super cap like they use for car stereos would be somethign good to fill up - their "ESR" (equivalent series resistance) is usually around .004 ohms or somethign like that - so if dead short speeds up,
and 1 ohm speeds up too, then maybe when these type of caps get filled up to say 12V, then at 12V they might then have an ESR of around 1ohms (guessing) which means the whole process fo filling them from zero to some decent volts should have the speed-up effect throughout.
I really want to try the experiment too - seems like he has 4 magnet rotor, and it happens around 1650rpm so anyone with a romeroUK rotor of 8 magnets should get  same effect at around 825rpm with same sort of core and coil...
I wonder if the spacing of that coil back from rotor on the core is the "reason" it works so well...maybe the coil back there polarizes the core back away from rotor magnet jsut right so that the tip of the core next to magnet becomes opposite polarity for one thing, and also this happens a little bit later in time too, than when the coil polarizes, and this oppostie polariztion of tip of core, flings the rotor magnet with push instead of the lenz-lug pull-back..
anyways have fun and let us know what happens.

mariuscivic

Hi guys!

It's early morning here and i will be gone for 2 days.
The rotor has 8 magnets 10/10mm.
The distance is critical between the the mags and the bolt and also the coil.
I haven't got time to test a shorter bolt but i think it's important to try diferent materials. With ferite does't work.
The numbers on the metter doesn't show the real rpm. Just reads the voltage variation acros another coil (1.658V-1.887V). I dont have an rpm metter and those  wich seem cheap end up 3-4 times more expensive.

Magluvin

Hey Kone

Well, we dont know what voltage potential the coil has yet.  12v seems a bit high from my experience, and looking at what is presented..   I was a bit impressed that the light bulb filament got to a visible glow. So maybe there , a couple volts. But the rotor slows when glowing, due to higher resistance, not enough load. ;] 
This is why my thoughts resort to an application that can take advantage of lower voltages and provide the effect effectively.
Using a transformer, low ohm primary, might affect the effect. lol   Some way to convert the output so that we can get 12v or whatever needed. ;] 

I have more to do tomorrow on this and hopefully it is not too beyond the simplicity we have witnessed.

Im thinking that a high ohm coil can have effect with higher resistance loads than a lower ohm coil. Im going to see if its true. The effect is the focus here, and getting a feel for it and the limitations with different coils is valuable. Output should be secondary focus.  ;]   Imagine getting 8 coils with no drag.  If what we have seen in Marius vid is as we see it, then maybe Romero added a bit of confusion along the way, for what ever reasons.  ;]  No disrespect intended.

Mags