Muller Dynamo

[Magluvin]

From what Im beginning to understand is the shorted bifi coil, if you kick it, pulse, it will oscillate and we collect output via the secondary. Im thinking that if we used just a single strand coil with a capacitor, we are missing the shorted effect of the shorted bifi. What ever that effect may be. ;]

So it is not a typical LC. Ive never tried it, let alone think of such a thing till here recently. Titos clues have been much better lately.  A couple things he said the other day, just clicked.

Just gotta try.

You said that your primary was near the core and the secondary is wound on the outer part of the coil?  You can always just hook it up so that your input (primary) is the outer coil and use the inner coil as the sec. ;]  If the primary turns and the sec turns are the same number, your transformer/coil should work better as intended.

Thats a nice, big coil. ;]


Mags

[konehead]

Hi all
So far, I am getting very good speed up with backing magnets behind the motor coils (X2 rpms) then I put bakcing magnets behind the generator coils and their cores and now get speed uip X 4 or X5 with those having the backing magnets there. (reported on this few days and put up those pictures too of the test machine - the "Romero variant") So thats all good I guess...
I rebuilt the ugly and cracked rotor seen in those pictures with much better new one ....and so while putting it all back together, I was testing the same Romero-variant, with JUST the motor coils, which are two facing coils in series, with ferrite cores, and 3 ohm litz-wire coils in each wound "directional"....
so just wanted  to see what it was like just testing the motor coils-only - it was going fine, and found a stack of 7 backing magnets behind bottom motor coil and stack of 5 backing magents behind top motor coil gave best rpms and power... each magnet is 1" wide and 1/4" thick so "stack" of 5 magnets is 1 1/4" long...
ANYWAYS - here is what is cool thing just disconvered - with motor running around 1400rpm, I put another stack of 5 magnets on flat steel washer, and moved it around the stator plate that is normally holding in the genrator coils and does have motor coil(s) mounted ...(one top plate and one bottom plate of course with rotor magnets between like Muller stuff is )
So there are NO genrator coils, or anything else mouned on etiher stator plate while doing this experiment - and putting the "Backing magnets" - and ONLY the baking magnets, in their previous-positions I had them before,  (but NOT behind any genrator coils and thier cores so now backing magnets not backing anything)
this gives HUGE speed up happeing - now pushing 1900 rpm with only one "backing" magnet in place.....this is crazy since the only thing that the backing magnet can possiblereact to, is the rotor magnets underneath or above them...the bakcing magnets are on far side of stator plate as the motor coils too, so for sure they are not reacting to the motor coils...
.its very insane - I thought it was nuts that the bakcing magnets on the unloaded gernator coils would give all the additional speed up I had before, now they do it without the gernator coils, or their cores in place....(!!)
draw stays "near the same" but goes up some with the big speed up I thiknk this is becasue the pusle width to the motor coils needs to be shorter once you start having rpms go up X4 or X5 and you keep same pulse width as slow speeds so will have to get some adjsutment for that soon too....tried do do video on it today but failed will try agin next few days...its VERY dramatic speed up and no reason "why"  which is really great actually...

[mariuscivic]

Hi Konehead
From what you are saying I understand that the backing magnets are helping spining the rotor. Your are saying that you got the speed up even without the gen coils and without affecting the input power. This is a first for all the replicators so you must a make a video 

[crazycut06]

From what Im beginning to understand is the shorted bifi coil, if you kick it, pulse, it will oscillate and we collect output via the secondary. Im thinking that if we used just a single strand coil with a capacitor, we are missing the shorted effect of the shorted bifi. What ever that effect may be. ;]

So it is not a typical LC. Ive never tried it, let alone think of such a thing till here recently. Titos clues have been much better lately.  A couple things he said the other day, just clicked.

Just gotta try.

You said that your primary was near the core and the secondary is wound on the outer part of the coil?  You can always just hook it up so that your input (primary) is the outer coil and use the inner coil as the sec. ;]  If the primary turns and the sec turns are the same number, your transformer/coil should work better as intended.


Thats a nice, big coil. ;]
   

Mags

Hi Mags,
      Hehe...tnx   Hard to wind though, yeah my primary is near the core, I don't think my primary winding is the same as my sec. but maybe i can try that shorted bifi, just need to find my pulser...

[crazycut06]

Hi Konehead,
    Good to hear that your motorgen speeds up 4x -5x without extra draw, i think you've just discoverd something like the stargate motor with your magnets finding a position around the stator where the motor spees up, whats the orientation of your backing magnets? repelling or attracting? have you checked your generator coils voltage when adding backing magnets?
    As im playing with backing magnets i found that with repelling backing magnets, voltage output of coil increases (with load connected) but rotor slightly slows down with extra draw on input, then i tried attracting, voltage output decreases dramatically (with load connected) but rotor speeds up, also decreased draw on input. what do you think is happening here?
    Repelling backing magnets more voltage=more lenz   
    Attracting backing magnets less voltage=less lenz 
This was done with 1 coil pair in series.