Muller Dynamo

[Scorch]

What is the motive for the alleged 'scam'?
How much money was the alleged scammer attempting to gain?
Is hearsay, of an alleged scam, relevant to my pursuit of happiness by way of hands on experience and learning about these very different systems and wide ranging designs?
Was there ever a claim of being "real" such as: "This is a documentary video production"?
Is it possible some video productions are merely a fictional representation of what is POSSIBLE?
Do such productions encourage me to maintain an open mind and TRY by way of building a device labeled: "Testing the 'impossible"?
Do I need to be 'dazzled', by the possibilities, in order to be encouraged?
Or are the much louder yells of "THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE a far STRONGER encouragement?

Are you of the position this is "bad"?
What if closed minds also came with closed mouths? Would this actually result in LESS encouragement for me to TRY?
Could it be said: "those who say it's impossible to do; should make way for those actually doing it"?

Is mere asking, of questions, an argument or a particular position?

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Here we come again... new year, same old scam.

This guy is a known fake. He produced his first (fake) videos a few years back.
Subsequently he started his forum [underservice.org] where he leads his faithful followers to where no free energy is in sight. [This is not mine - I've borrowed it from another post].

As far as I remember, last year user 'trace_ru' offered RomeroUK to come out clean. When RomeroUK refused and kept on mumbling  'the men in black took my dynamo', 'trace_ru' published an entire dossier of the guy on RomeroUK's forum (which was deleted pretty quickly), including RomeroUK's background and his photos etc. etc.  Having said 'deleted', nothing gets deleted on the Net - I've seen posts re-published on other forums.

So I wonder how RomeroUK plans to dazzle us this time...

[avalon]

Scorch,

No one is stopping you. Frankly, I'd be the first to congratulate you when (if) you'd achieved a self-sustained rotation with a load.
By all means do go ahead and try.

I also appreciate that once you have started a project you'd need to maintain a positive attitude.  We are all for it and nobody's going to tell you otherwise. However, there are some people here who, for one reason or another, falsify their results. RomeroUK's self-sustaining unit is one of the known fakes.

My point is that it is not helping anyone to post false statements and videos even if the reason is to encourage new research.
I have read a few posts where authors confessed that they were lured into the project by false videos. (The thinking behind being: ' I can take the idea but will do it better and - presto! - free energy). The end result was always a huge disappointment.
We need new people and new ideas but starting with a lie is not going to help.

So, please, go ahead and finish you project and do tell us the results. Just don't tell us humbugs or equivocations.

[Thestone]

Scorch,


So, please, go ahead and finish you project and do tell us the results. Just don't tell us humbugs or equivocations.

I love people when they only tell you about the problem, but never any type of solutions or possible solutions...

[Scorch]

With regards to the original video, containing no dialog, or claims, I see no evidence of any Scam, Fake, or Fraud, and I believe no such evidence exists.

With regards to internet postings of false statements, retractions, corrections, 'truth', etc. I have seen no evidence that ANY posted statements, or claims, including mine or YOURS, posted in any VIRTUAL REALITY (internet forum) may EVER be considered as 100% "True" without required verifiable certification, sworn under oath, signed under penalty of perjury, documented EVIDENCE; shall be considered as anything other than 'questionable' or 'hearsay'; and I believe no such evidence exists.

With regards to use of the term 'free energy'; for the context of my personal use of the term: 'free energy' is that for which does not come with a utility bill.
And my goal is merely the CONVERSION of existing energy, from the surrounding environment, converted into a more useful form such as a conversion of heat energy into electrical energy.
Or the conversion of torsion fields* into electrical energy.

As such-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcUnpamk-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MZv7DhxpX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcCLIwlbhLc

*See: "torsion Physics" or "quantum Physics" or "ether energy" or "energy from the vacuum" or "vortex math" or any OTHER terms used to describe the SAME energy found in the orbits, and rotations, of all mater from the spin of the universe, galaxies, solar systems, planets, etc, all the way down to the atomic level electron orbits of atoms and molecules.

And if the electron orbits, in all matter, is not 'perpetual motion' then what is?!?
How about if I simply agree with those, who claim there is no such thing as 'perpetual', and use the term: Millions of years?
What care I, in terms of my short life, if it only runs for 100 years?

With regards to a self sustained rotation, under a load, I intend to purchase this experimental kit within a few days-
http://shop.quantamagnetics.com/Q2-Motor-Generator-Kit-77699.htm

The following is a substantial multitude of possible configurations, experiments, replications of the main experiment as smaller, desktop, versions and a completely unknown future at this point in time.

SO, how can I, POSSIBLY, take ANY position EVER?

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Scorch,

No one is stopping you. Frankly, I'd be the first to congratulate you when (if) you'd achieved a self-sustained rotation with a load.
By all means do go ahead and try.

I also appreciate that once you have started a project you'd need to maintain a positive attitude.  We are all for it and nobody's going to tell you otherwise. However, there are some people here who, for one reason or another, falsify their results. RomeroUK's self-sustaining unit is one of the known fakes.

My point is that it is not helping anyone to post false statements and videos even if the reason is to encourage new research.
I have read a few posts where authors confessed that they were lured into the project by false videos. (The thinking behind being: ' I can take the idea but will do it better and - presto! - free energy). The end result was always a huge disappointment.
We need new people and new ideas but starting with a lie is not going to help.

So, please, go ahead and finish you project and do tell us the results. Just don't tell us humbugs or equivocations.

[Thestone]

... With regards to a self sustained rotation, under a load, I intend to purchase this experimental kit within a few days-
http://shop.quantamagnetics.com/Q2-Motor-Generator-Kit-77699.htm

I am thinking to buy the same kit, but I not convince that is worth it, as it is very expensive and does not comes with the capacitors, or magnets....

The other thing I noticed is the coils, have one wire... I dont see much gain with single thread wires.... 

Have anyone here in the forum have bought one of these, and can provide good feedback? thanks.