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Overunity Machines Forum



Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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nul-points

Quote from: Tudi on May 10, 2011, 06:33:03 AM
@nul-points
[...]
I'm trying to extract this new theory you are talking about, the ambiant energy that is absorbed. I could not find any post about speculations in what form does this ambiant energy comes from ( i know every second topic is about vacum and null point energy, but there is no vacum here to create null-point energy). Ofc as this theory is intended to be new, i do not expect that most speculation would even be close to the real reason. Things need to start at some point.
[...]

hi again Tudi

since you were asking about theory here, i'm attaching something i promised you earlier- its by a physicist named Leon Dragone (now sadly deceased)

i'm not saying that it is directly explaining what we are seeing here, but it is dealing with a re-evaluation of the interaction between coils and magnets, particularly the cooling effect he observed in his motor components which he attributed to energy being supplied to the device from the environment

in the paper, Dragone was trying to persuade his academic colleagues to investigate his own results further

i suspect that his penultimate paragraph was the end of any discussion, as far as the other academics was concerned:

"The "black box" device was my attempt to do away
with the moving armature of the motor, as I
mentioned, this device had an over unity efficiency for
the two tests I performed."


i apologise for the manual typescript in the PDF - there are newer transcriptions available on the net now - but this one appears to contain Dragone's own typing & diagram sketches (and hopefully is a small enough file to upload here)

perhaps you'd like to share any comments about it with us here, after you've read it?

all the best
np


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powerunlimited

@Romerouk,thanks it will settle this.

nul-points

Quote from: romerouk on May 10, 2011, 10:44:35 AM
[...]
There are invisible batteries invented but only I have access to them :)
[...]

glad you mentioned them, Romero...

could you give us an eBay link for them, please

we're obviously going to need some for our own replications!  ;)

hang in there, man
"To do is to be" ---  Descartes;
"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
"Do be do be do" ---  F. Sinatra

e2matrix

Quote from: nul-points on May 10, 2011, 03:59:49 AM
@powerunlimited
@Aedini
@Overunityguide

...and anyone else who might be even thinking about making the same requests...


ok, let's get this straight guys

Romero has done ALL he needs to do at this point (much more in fact)

he's shown other people in forums like this, who have some understanding of the possibilities and behaviour of the various parts of his device (ie. people who are reasonably 'skilled in the art'), just one example of how to use magnets, coils, rotation and inertia to convert ambient energy into useful work

the 'unusual' thing at the moment (because this is NEW, as far as conventional science is concerned) is that he has made an ELECTRICAL system which only needs 12 Watts to convert 24W from the environment - ie., it has a CoP of 2

BUT - in general, a system which uses X Watts to convert >X W from the environment is NOT NEW - heat pumps regularly operate with CoP > 3

so - the way ahead is NOT to have Romero spend all his time making more and more complicated videos - you see, lots of small capacitors on a video are not better than one big capacitor because there MIGHT be lots of small batteries in them, etc - there is always ONE more objection

no, HERE is the way that science has progressed: --> not just by making a believable video (although the videos that Romero has made ARE helpful to those who will follow on) - no, science progresses by OTHER people taking the necessary details and REPLICATING it for themselves

the inventor cannot 'believe' for somebody else - each person has to 'believe' for themselves

when enough people of integrity & understanding 'believe' THEN science can be expanded to include the new knowledge

from what i've seen from the evidence which Romero has shown about this device - and from the evidence of other things he has made - and the obvious love he has for doing this work - and for the fact that Bill Muller and several other people have ALL shown the same achievement and the same integrity - i BELIEVE that what we've been shown here is all true

and now it is the job of people who have the same approach as Romero to duplicate what he has done and tell the people - who are sitting on their @rses in ivory towers, telling everybody that this is NOT POSSIBLE - to stop wasting our money spending billions of dollars/pounds/euros etc, just to discover 'how many angels can dance on the tip of a needle'

THEY are getting paid for US to do THEIR work!


if you didn't bother trying to read & think about everything i just said above, then the short answer is:

Romero will NOT be making any more videos JUST TO DISPROVE A FAKE


if you can't be bothered - or don't have the skills or resources - to make a replication attempt, then you will just have to be patient and watch as many others repeat what Romero has done
(while you're waiting, why not read carefully through the earlier 576 posts, like most of the rest of us have done, and watch Romero's 3 'Muller Dynamo' videos to get at least some idea of his integrity, achievement and dedication - not to mention the personal pressures on his family and on him)


the 'writing is on the wall' for the 2nd so-called Law of Thermodynamics

and was it our fantastically clever and knowledgeable 'scientists' who discovered this for humanity and opened the door to a new era of energy independence?

no, it was a few members of the public working on their kitchen and garden tables

SHAME on the scientific community! 


...sorry, did someone mention something about Romero making some MORE videos?  ;)


have a nice day
np

[Edited - to add and clarify the rant a bit :)]
[2nd Edit to remove Tudi from the reply list, with apologies]


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nul-points,  I haven't read past your post at the moment but I TOTALLY AGREE 100% !!!!!!!!!!!!  It seems this has brought a lot of low post count and newbies out of the woodwork.  I won't speculate on their motives but only ask them to allow the serious research to continue without diverting Romerouk and others by tons of requests that are irrelevant to people here doing real work. 

   And everything you said was well worth quoting here so it can be seen by any people just jumping in the end of this thread. 

khabe

No like rain cats and dogs there is coming differnent OUs   :o
Look at Hoppy´s TPU Replication  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10710.msg285458#new   :o

But OK, when Romero´s - Muller dynamo really works, then why to use rotor with magnets at all  ???

Just take two ferros core coils, set it up exact like one Romero´s unit with two coils and instead of moving magnet just use third ferros coil between these two coils - but this third is pulse driven,

NS->COIL->pulse-driven-coil->COIL->SN

Yes, this is very similar to well known units from other threads, but you must have all the same air gaps like Romero and top and bottom magnets - you must replicate all this like opened magnetic circuit, like Romero did.
Benefit of this experiment is you do not need so much different part. At that you will get solid state OU (if at all)
If it works - then you can be sure that Romero´s device works as well,
If it does not work - then ...  >:(  ... oh dear  8)

Why I do not try myself?
Because I have tried looooong time ago - no way  ;)
I just looked Romero´s video and wonder why he is holding hes machine by hand, why not just by string or something like that?
What is behind holding hand, we do not see. Why there are so much wires? Like always - lot of wires, shabby imaging, failure cameraman ...
Was no time to make order, to short all wires for correct length? .... Come on, guys  ;)
He did what he did --- few days like shooting star, but now is coming a thinking time, to think about results and ... about reputation  :(
But anyway I wish good success,
cheers,
herbert
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