Muller Dynamo

[JouleSeeker]

heres a thought... not to ridicule the whole idea because i believe it...

BUT we seem to always have this understanding that there are powerful forces out there intent on silencing or discrediting whoever should come across and attempt to share these energy miracles. from a logical perspective this does seem very real and likely.

But knowing this, we continue to provide our experience in a manner that simply invites these powers right to us.
doing this over and over and expecting these powers to just skip over or ignore us through luck can be called insanity by some people.

it seems we are in need of a better medium with which to share out information that offers an even greater deal of anonymity than this forum.
i like the fact that Stefan is able to backup and store all deleted youtube vids, but thats just a start.

the CIA coming to snatch you away is not only something we should consciously make an effort to avoid, but it provides far too easy of an excuse for would-be hoax starters..

if i was Romero i would not been so open as he was.. i would have shared the same information but not so publicly, and definitely not in a way where my personal information could be tracked down. that is ludicrous.

Anyone who yet again finds themselves traveling down this all too familiar road should consider sharing their information in a completely anonymous manner, which hopefully some of us can create in some type of way. some type of venue where OU info can be shared and the poster has total confidentiality regarding his or her personal life. fight the urge to receive personal praise. its not all about you.

are going to have to go through this yet again?

if we are indeed "rebels" against a governmental oppression then maybe we should start acting like it and move accordingly to work against this oppression rather than just bending right over in front of uncle sam asking him to give us a swift kick in the reality ass

I've been thinking along the same lines. Totally agree.  But how to share without being squashed? again?  I have a great deal of sympathy for RomeroUK -- I've been there in a rather similar situation, and in my case, it cost me my job.  I hope Romero keeps his, for his family's sake especially.

  I suspect that none of you know who I am, except perhaps one. 
Does it matter?  except that I'm working on alt-energy devices quietly, I've posted mostly on another forum, but far from everything, and I have a good oscilloscope on my home bench and access to state-of-the-art DSO's.

  Let's say a friend has a device, that appears using state-of-the-art DSO's to determine Pin and Pout -- clearly is overunity.  Where could he post the schematic, anonymously? (so the Sea Aye Ay/En Ess Ay/BigOil would not know no who posted it - not easy, I think)  and if he did, would you believe it enough to try it?


  But if you can think of another way to communicate privately, I'd like to hear it, and then maybe my brilliant friend will share his circuit with you.  He'd like to so that it could be checked, but is intimidated.  Yes, its has been replicated and looks good... but I expect you'll want to try it yourself.  One transistor, bifilar winding, brilliant IMO.  How can he communicate it to serious (and non-black-suit) types?

  What I've thought of is this -- we have a meeting where qualified guys bring their "best" devices and we listen and TEST on the spot.  No cell phones around.  VERY careful about who is invited and confidentiality AT the meeting.  Then, we replicate and get the word out all at once around the world via internet when we have a number of working devices.   BIG guys don't get all the money and control of energy.  Humanity benefits.

In the present case with the Muller device , the schematic and details are already out there and folks are replicating.  That's great, and with enough replicators we might be able to get this out to humanity without the invention being squashed or bought up by BIG corps/in bed with/BIG guv-mint.  This may be the best way we've got. 

I'd recommend that at least 3 replicators privately agree to announce their results at the SAME MOMENT, wherever in the world they are.  This MOMENT could be pre-determined here without the replicators identifying themselves further until that time where the results (and build details) are actually disclosed, all at once. 

Somehow, we've got to stop playing on the chessboard that THEY control.

[Staffman]

@Wings

Cool find. It sure looks like a scaled up Muller motor. I did a little research. The website for the company is no longer in service, and not on Archive.org. [http://www.newspacetechnology.co.th/] The only other mentions that I could find were from Searl's page- it just mentions that they(NST) were helping him manufacture some components for him.

[toranarod]

I've been thinking along the same lines. Totally agree.  But how to share without being squashed? again?  I have a great deal of sympathy for RomeroUK -- I've been there in a rather similar situation, and in my case, it cost me my job.  I hope Romero keeps his, for his family's sake especially.

  I suspect that none of you know who I am, except perhaps one. 
Does it matter?  except that I'm working on alt-energy devices quietly, I've posted mostly on another forum, but far from everything, and I have a good oscilloscope on my home bench and access to state-of-the-art DSO's.

  Let's say a friend has a device, that appears using state-of-the-art DSO's to determine Pin and Pout -- clearly is overunity.  Where could he post the schematic, anonymously? (so the Sea Aye Ay/En Ess Ay/BigOil would not know no who posted it - not easy, I think)  and if he did, would you believe it enough to try it?


  But if you can think of another way to communicate privately, I'd like to hear it, and then maybe my brilliant friend will share his circuit with you.  He'd like to so that it could be checked, but is intimidated.  Yes, its has been replicated and looks good... but I expect you'll want to try it yourself.  One transistor, bifilar winding, brilliant IMO.  How can he communicate it to serious (and non-black-suit) types?

  What I've thought of is this -- we have a meeting where qualified guys bring their "best" devices and we listen and TEST on the spot.  No cell phones around.  VERY careful about who is invited and confidentiality AT the meeting.  Then, we replicate and get the word out all at once around the world via internet when we have a number of working devices.   BIG guys don't get all the money and control of energy.  Humanity benefits.

In the present case with the Muller device , the schematic and details are already out there and folks are replicating.  That's great, and with enough replicators we might be able to get this out to humanity without the invention being squashed or bought up by BIG corps/in bed with/BIG guv-mint.  This may be the best way we've got. 

I'd recommend that at least 3 replicators privately agree to announce their results at the SAME MOMENT, wherever in the world they are.  This MOMENT could be pre-determined here without the replicators identifying themselves further until that time where the results (and build details) are actually disclosed, all at once. 

Somehow, we've got to stop playing on the chessboard that THEY control.

I am in
what a good idea.
how do we get this off the ground?

who else?

I am in
what a good idea.
how do we get this off the ground?

[hhobrian]

That's what I was suggesting earlier. Most people think that a nickname and password offer protection but in fact it's not very difficult for the skilled to track you down if they want to.

Especially since they log our IP on this forum...

[powercat]

RomeroUK admired this guy's work very much
http://www.youtube.com/user/skycollection#p/u/1/FfxxidCNguo
Before playing the blame game, give some time for the replications