Muller Dynamo

[neptune]

@nul-points .Yes I would read the raw AC on a meter . I do not have a scope . I had one that was old and simple , but the "magic smoke" escapes and it has not worked since .Re the bridge rectifier .the techniques I described for coil winding were developed years ago when i was into wind turbines .If you are using a bridge rectifier to charge a lead acid battery , the bridge actually seems to increase the voltage . Probably due to the capacitance of the battery .Don't ask me about mathematical queries , I am more a practical man who graduated at the University of hard knocks .Thus I am qualified to do anything with next to nothing . Think of me as an Idiot Savant with more emphasis on the former than the latter .
        As regards the naysayers , all I will say is this . You may be right . Statistics are on your side . However let us not discourage the guys who are spending loads of time and money on this . The standard of workmanship of some of you guys is truly amazing .If the magic is out there these guys will find it .Alternatively we can say nothing will ever work lets forget about it and carry on in our ignorance and slavery .
@Loner . Agree with most of what you say ,but remembber that the output is not simple AC but 7 sinewaves , sperated by about 50 degrees of phase shift . Not sure if you can therefore use a Cockcroft Multiplier type voltage doubler .

[lanenal]

        As regards the naysayers , all I will say is this ...

Well, I am here to show my support of the builders. If I were more experienced or got some good amount of spare time, I would definitely join the builders right now.

I studied the theories of Adams motor, and it seems to me Romero's variant of Muller Dynamo works on similar OU principal. It is said that one should better go with ferrite magnets when building Adams motor, but Muller's design of odd/even magnet arrangements on the rotor and stator overcomes the strong cogging effects of neomagnets. Once that strong cogging is subdued, Adams motor build with strong magnets can MAGNIFY the OU effect to produce a lot of usable free energy. One of Romero's great contributions in my assessment is this: he arranged all magnets on the rotor in the same polarity, thus greatly simplified the control circuitry, making it so easy to replicate.

Plus, Romero's dynamo is operating in a sub-optimal condition, and it seems to me there is a lot of room for improvement, and that the device probably allows a wide range of component parameters to function in OU mode. Therefore I am very optimistic that the replicators here would succeed. That said, I think I agree with many of you here that we should stick to a good replication as close as we can to increase our chance of success.


T H E  W O R L D  W O N ' T  B E  T H E  S A M E

because of Romero and his kind of people!!!


lanenal

[nul-points]

@nul-points
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but the "magic smoke" escapes and it has not worked since
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@Loner . Agree with most of what you say ,but remember that the output is not simple AC but 7 sinewaves , separated by about 50 degrees of phase shift . Not sure if you can therefore use a Cockcroft Multiplier type voltage doubler .

LOL at thoughts of all the magic smoke I'VE ever set free from components!

BUT - did you know that you can now get magic smoke in cans?!?

it's true - i've seen guys wandering around with them in offices at work, testing smoke detectors

now if we could only spray that smoke back into the bl..dy components...!


we should adopt your saying as the motto for Free Energy experimenters everywhere: "Qualified to Do Anything with Nothing"


i can't find Loners post relating to the Cockcroft circuit?!? is that the post he deleted?

i do know (from experience) that the CVM is VERY inefficient - was originally invented just to achieve v high voltages, not as a voltage-boost power supply - the amount of i/p energy it required wasn't an issue for the High-Voltage research to which it was first applied

hope this helps
np


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[neptune]

Hi nul-point. Loner does not call it a Cockroft multiplier he just calls it a voltage doubler .Come to think of it , the term probably died out before World War 2 .That is what happens when as a kid with no money you educate yourself from books found in rubbish skips .We know it better today as a simple voltage doubler circuit , of the type used in microwave ovens . It consists of just diodes and capacitors ,the number of each depending on how much voltage multiplication you need .I like the canned magic smoke !

[DadHav]

I think the original origin of doing something with nothing is actully " I've done so much with so little for so long, that now I can do almost anything with nothing"
Why not start a data base that everyone can refer to which is a gathering of known to be facts, or at least best guess data about the Romero project. As example: How many magnet poles; coils; polarity; wind direction. number of turns on the coils; wire gauge; core materials; circuits; suggestions etc. In looking at the video again. Yes it looks like Rom had 9 coils and 8 magnets. This is a good choice for less cogging but I think if you look into the matter you might find the more cogging points the less drag. Not to sure about that but winding calculators for generators show 72 cogging points for the 9/8 combo and 90 for a combination of 9 coils and 10 magnets. I think basically the more cogging points you have, the smoother the rotation. I could be wrong. I guess what I'm saing is I agree with those who say the Rom project might not have been optimzed as well as it could have been. I think using strong magnets can be compensated for by moving them away from the cores to find the right amount of saturation for the application.
Just a couple thoughts.
John H (DadHav)