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Overunity Machines Forum



Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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romerouk

Quote from: infringer on May 07, 2011, 09:56:19 PM
You are likely going to hear about it and what will be said in the coming days or hours or weeks who knows they will talk about the following things.

The fact that the table is plastic and has nice big hollow legs.

And the fact that you have a 12v lithium drill with a 1/8" drill bit under your table at 17:18 on this video... Sitting right next to them big hollow legs of that table.

I think yes the best test would be for you to do a suspension test I can see all of the shit slinging trolls coming out of the closet here soon might as well put them to rest as soon as possible imho . Seems it always happens even when people are not conclusively I believe proved wrong something just dies out because of the replication process being a bit more advanced then most have the time money or mental capacity to complete a strong proving series of there own ever since cold fusion it has been this way probably even long before this even Tesla with wardencliff ... He was made a mockery and we first finally now start to acknowledge his achievements in the time of "peak oil" which is another false term imho that I would prefer to believe there is no peak yet I believe with all the shale and other things oil abundance could still keep us rolling for over a century at our current rate of growth but with everything getting greener I estimate it would even last much longer.
I tried to do a hanging video yesterday but all device started to rotate and going crazy... after that gotoluc said that if don't do it properly then better don't.
I will do it anyway, I migh be able to keep it in the air with one hand and record with the other or... we'll see
That drill has nothing to do ... :) I didn't even think about removing it from there.
I will also try to use another capacitor, smaller, as gotoluc sugested, people might think I have batteries inside ...

FreeEnergyInfo

Quote from: romerouk on May 08, 2011, 06:30:23 AM
I tried to do a hanging video yesterday but all device started to rotate and going crazy... after that gotoluc said that if don't do it properly then better don't.
I will do it anyway, I migh be able to keep it in the air with one hand and record with the other or... we'll see
That drill has nothing to do ... :) I didn't even think about removing it from there.
I will also try to use another capacitor, smaller, as gotoluc sugested, people might think I have batteries inside ...

THANKS OSCILOGRAM  ROMERO UK ....
VIEV ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWpB3peU3Uk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbF63Gzvtd4

joefr

First I like to thanks RomeroUK for great work and all details he posted on this forum.
He said that he will build bigger machine with more magnets and coils.
I have had already my plans made for a motor generator which uses coil shorting for more voltage output.

Now I adapted my plans to use 16x 20mm diameter 10mm thick magnets and 17x 20mm diameter core coils config.
I will be using rear gokart parts for axle and holders for rotor for easy adjustment of rotor.
I will be using opto triggering for coil shorting with help of arduino microcontroller.
The plans are made in SketchUP pro and exported to dxf and jpg format.
Please look at the plans if you have some suggestions before my machine shop start cutting the parts.

Here is the link to complete plans:
http://www.filedropper.com/plan16magnets17coilsoptocoilshorting

Joe









romerouk

Quote from: EMdevices on May 07, 2011, 11:58:51 PM
I'm taking all this information in as fast as I can and I have a few suggestions for RomeroUK.

1)  make sure you document everything, it's very important.
2)  continue to explore why you got the results you did and what are the critical factors, we need to determine the fundamental principle so we can duplicate easily and also scale up the design.


It sounds like the Muller arrangement of having one more coil on the stator than magnets on the rotor, i.e.  8 to 9 ratio, is a primary factor of importance, along with the fact that magnets are biasing the ferrite cores.   The biasing is critical in eliminating the hysteresis losses, and the motor pulsing arrangement is another very low loss mechanism,  so I second what bolt was saying,  don't build some cheap setup, go for perfection and eliminate as many losses as possible.


An interesting observation I made is that the ferrite is biased and the rotor magnets are in opposition.   This means the B-H curve is traversed from high H values to low H values and then back, as a magnet on the rotor approaches a stator coil, passes under it, and then departs away.  I think this cycling of the B-H curve from high-to-low and then back is very significant!  Romero, you might want to experiment and reverse all the polarities of the magnets only on the stators, and see if it still works.

EM
I think that if I have 8 magnets on the rotor and any other greater uneven numbers of coils will work even better.
What I found durings some tests is that we need to have good spacing betwen the magnets on the rotor.The OFF time for the coils must be much greater than the ON time, possible because of the  core I use.Better material for the core will improve substantially.
People should pay attention for the core material, that is one of the most important keys in this setup togheter with the spacing arangement.
I will try different configurations, now that I made note of everything I can do any changes and still able to go back to the curent setup.
Something I discovered yesterday is that if I lift the magnet on top of the coil just a little bit then the output is increased. That shows me that I need to take every magnet and check, lifting up and down and add some spacers if required.

Cherryman

RomeroUK,

In my humble opinion, i would not risk hanging your device on a string.
Better yet, i would not risk anything at all with it.
Most of us believe your intentions and observations.

Better to focus on a replication first.

Not that I wanna tell you how to handle, i trust your judgment. Keep up the good work!

PS. It seems like corematerial and the power of the magnet are related.