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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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xenomorphlabs

Quote from: Tudi on May 10, 2011, 06:33:03 AM
( i know every second topic is about vacum and null point energy, but there is no vacum here to create null-point energy).

This is where you draw the wrong conclusion.
The vacuum is underlying everything and is present all the time.
Try reading about the "Casimir Effect" or more illustrative watch
Bearden's "Energy from the vacuum".
Just a suggestion.

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nul-points

Quote from: Tudi on May 10, 2011, 06:33:03 AM
@nul-points thanks for showing everyones opinion. I tried to NOT divert the discussion in the wrong way. That is why i tried to write in bold my point. I'm trying to extract this new theory you are talking about, the ambiant energy that is absorbed. I could not find any post about speculations in what form does this ambiant energy comes from ( i know every second topic is about vacum and null point energy, but there is no vacum here to create null-point energy). Ofc as this theory is intended to be new, i do not expect that most speculation would even be close to the real reason. Things need to start at some point.
I could use your same speach for the sake of the development of the theoretical part. This even misunderstood theoretical part might help people improve their practical devices at some point.

hi Tudi

firstly, let me apologise for including your name in the reply list (i'll try to edit it out) - i misunderstood your final comment to mean that you hoped it could be shown that there was a 'hidden' trick which would explain the 'mistery'
(>>"Crossing fingers there is some hidden mistery in this device nobody noticed until now")

firstly let me say that it is not a 'theory' that the extra energy is coming from the ambient environment - if there is no energy being supplied by the operator to the system (which for 5 hours, there wasn't) then the only place for the energy to be coming from is the very substance of physical matter and the space (or 'vacuum') it occupies around the experiment

fact - not theory!

i'm using the word 'vacuum' here to mean the fundamental properties of the universe when you remove all the 'coarser' substance which we are currently capable of measuring - not 'vacuum' meaning 'extremely low pressure' in an evacuated container

when we're all talking about zero-point energy it's to the first of those two 'vacuums' that we're referring

you asked what happened after the self-run tests ran for 3 & 5 hours - Romero switched it off so that he could go to bed! (the device creates some noise and i guess he was being considerate to his family & neighbours)

Romero achieved better than 1:0.9999999 - he achieved better than 1:2 - he supplies 12W approx; it self runs, so it is obviously generating at least 12W - and he can also power 10-20W of load in addition

Bill Muller (and at least one other replicator) have achieved similar results

i agree that it is important to reduce the losses in the system so that the mechanical operation is as close to 100% as possible - this is just the starting point to go beyond that 'perceived' limit

i'm glad that you found the speed decrease/increase with adjustment of the converter voltage to be breathtaking - that was a defining moment for me too (as was the shock when he removed the battery and it just kept going!)

i will try to look out some 'new theory' for you - i agree it is important - but i hope you see that in the past it is 'theory' which has been used to convince us that what Romero has achieved is impossible

people have been actively discouraged from doing this sort of experiment in mainstream science because they lose credibility, research finance, even jobs

so - things have come to a 'poor pass' when the general public have to take matters into their own hand - and without theory - prove that some scientific thinking is badly wrong by doing the experiment in their back garden (without a Science Engineering Research Council grant - horrors!)

maybe the scientists will wake up & correct the theory now?

don't hold your breath ;)


good to meet you Tudi - i hope i'm forgiven?
np

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gauschor

@bolt: are you sure it would work without the pulses? I have my doubts, because what if the pulses caused by the hall sensors and therefore the manipulated polarity of the ferrite cores influence each one of the passing rotor magnets? Then the pulsing would be crucial to the system and it wouldn't be only the "driving" purpose. In that case a "replication" with a motor at the rotor axis instead of the driving coils wouldn't succeed.

nul-points

Quote from: powerunlimited on May 10, 2011, 07:05:31 AM
@nul-points,if this problem and it is a big problem, of a hidden power
source then its a 50/50 chance of doing a successfull replication.
If theres a hidden power source you will never replicate it.And I understand that
Romerouk has a life and may not want to make any  more video's,however he has the
skill level to pull off a fraud
easily,remember the mylow motor fraud and I'm weary of something like that so are a lot of people.
If you believe,without resolving the issue of a hidden power source your a fool.
Like people that believe Steve mark of the tpu fame can't lie there fools too.
Where is your working replication!!, fool, I bet theres none,arm chair mechanic. :o

hi powerunlimited

you've obviously spent a great deal of time studying the evidence of all that Bill Muller, Romero and other successful replicators of this effect have posted on the web over many years

you've carefully weighed the reasons for them spending so much time, effort and money in making these experiments and then sharing them with other like-minded members of the general public

i see that you've also earnestly inquired into my activities in the few short days since Romero showed us all what he's achieved - to make a considered conclusion such as this:

Quote from: powerunlimited on May 10, 2011, 07:05:31 AM
@nul-points

Where is your working replication!!, fool, I bet theres none,arm chair mechanic. :o

are you, by any chance,  a scientist?

ciao bella  ;)
np


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"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
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powercat

To all those speculating that this device is a fraud without any evidence.

Now is not the time.

Wait and see some replications.

Romero might well become one of the most famous man in history, this is not the way to treat him.

Let's wait and see what happens, time will tell.
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall