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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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khabe

Quote from: neptune on May 13, 2011, 04:38:32 PM
@ khabe Can I ask you three simple questions .
1. Do you believe that Overunity is possible .
2 Do you believe that overunity has been achieved.
3 Do you believe that it can or will be achieved in the home workshop .
If you please answer these questions , I will be able to understand your point of view better .

1.) I do very hope this is possible, sooner or later. But one is sure - this is not possible with bluff.
     Every kind of baloney with using "scholarly" terms, when talker himself has no idea what it means - it does not help to find out nothing, especially OU.
     First requirement is to be honest.

2.) No.

3.) Yes.

with due respect,
khabe

nul-points

Quote from: DadHav on May 13, 2011, 04:47:25 PM
It's just me, I haven't read enough to see that some of these other awsome builds are over unity. Maybe I'll eventually catch up on things.
John H

no problem, thanks for clarifying, John - hope all goes smoothly with your hybrid
"To do is to be" ---  Descartes;
"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
"Do be do be do" ---  F. Sinatra

DadHav

Quote from: neptune on May 13, 2011, 03:21:18 PM
If we look at Romero`s reply number 122 page 9 , he tells us that he started making OU generators from model aircraft motors . He states that it is very easy to make an OU generator from such a motor . He talks about rewinding the motor , but no mention of changing the magnet arrangements . He does not give us info on the new winding arrangements . These are very high RPM motors , and if you want to operate it as a generator at lower RPM , you would use thinner wire and more turns . Does  anybody know of a larger motor of this type [3 phase permanent magnet] ? Notice that there is no mention of using opposing stater magnets , [Muller style] nor IMO would it be possible .So he is saying indirectly that an overunity Generator is possible without this trick . He gives us not quite enough info to try it .
Romero , Romero , wherefore art thou Romero...

Hello, There are tons of larger motors just like the R/C outrunner. I have some that are fairly large on my channel running from SSG circuits. These are from office printers and copiers. Larger are found in some ceiling fans. If you really want to see a cool one check out the 36 and 42 leg stator motors used on washing machines. Some are called Smart Drives. I already show a stator motor on my videos that has 2 of the 12 legs as triggers and the other 10 drivers. It would be easy to make two legs bifiler as drivers and the other 10 as strickly generator coils with seperate rectifiers. With these R/C brushless outrunners all working combinations are uneven but some have less cogging than others. The question would be in the magnets and coil winding direction. All same poles might have some adverse effects on the stator as it pertains to edddy currents. I would think yuo'd have to use a standard wind and magnet configuration but just use the coils individually. See this video if you're interested.
http://www.youtube.com/user/DadHav#p/u/2/nlO8UDsc-Fc
You'll notice some similarity to what we're doing now.
John H. (DadHav)

neptune

@khabe . Thanks for an honest answer . I agree that honesty is very important . I sometimes like to imagine what the world would be like if mankind had never learned to tell lies . Mankind is divided into sheep and goats . Sheep believe everthing they are told . Goats refuse to believe anything they are told without visible proof . Most of us are a bit sheep and a bit goat . If we were all goats , research would nearly stop because there could be little optimism . I am a lot more sheep like than you , and I need to be to give me the strength to experiment . The world needs sheep AND goats . That is how I see it .
with respect , neptune .

nul-points

Quote from: khabe on May 13, 2011, 04:55:10 PM
1.) I do very hope this is possible, sooner or later. But one is sure - this is not possible with bluff.
     Every kind of baloney with using "scholarly" terms, when talker himself has no idea what it means - it does not help to find out nothing, especially OU.
     First requirement is to be honest.

2.) No.

3.) Yes.

with due respect,
khabe

i think you made your point a long time ago, khabe

either you have something new to contribute, or you don't

if you don't have something new, then keep your peace, man

please don't insult our ability to remember what you said yesterday, and last week, and last month by repeating it incessantly


now i also have a question for you

if what you say in 1) & 3) is true, then please prove it

otherwise you will be guilty of your own high principles - ie. you're appearing to speak with authority, but as far as we know,
it is all - as you yourself say - just bluff

have you heard of the expression "put up, or shut up"?

well, now i am challenging you to show that what you say is not bluff

where is the evidence that you yourself are experienced in experimenting with some area in which you "do very hope this [OU] is possible"?

please show us all - we'd all be very interested to see it

hopefully, we will be genuinely interested and ask you intelligent (and maybe some not so intelligent, in my case) questions about it  :)

let's sincerely hope  that no-one 'rubbishes' your freetime interests in the same way that you persistently 'rubbish' theirs

i await your careful and considered reply with interest

np


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