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Overunity Machines Forum



Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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redrichie

Xenomorphlabs posted a pic of the coil  There are 2 coil former ends. Does not mean he didnt glue those ends onto the ferrite and wind there.  But there are 2 former ends to be sure.  Now sometimes I feel like we are play a game called telephone.  Any one remember it?  Person at the beginning of the line whispers something to someone and by the end of the line it is all jacked up.  Well somewhere someone posted that Romero glued those ends onto the ferrite. There was no talk of the bobbins till later.  And he did say that a bigger coil and core yeilded better results. 
    In the end while I feel it is needed that someone do an exact replication It also needs to be stated that RomeroUK did a fantastic job of BASING HIS MOTOR ON THE MULLER GENERATOR.  Not a direct replication of the muller itself.  Use the theory.  Use the Videos you have seen. Use the stuff Romero said.  Exact freaking wire diameter Litzed together is not what made his motor special.  It was Mullers theory of the balancing of the magnetic fields.  IF anyone remembers the HUGE Bedini Ferris Wheel. I think that that motor is based on the theory of Muller.  At least his 3 bottom coils are.  A magnetic balancing act.  John called it a magamp.  One coil prebiased the other and so on.  There were ALOT of other things going on to be sure, John put a lot of thought into his new machine.  I believe ED also figured out the same process.  And that is why John said the Ferris was based on the work of ED  Leedskalnin.  Why?  BECAUSE THE THEORY IS THE SAME!!.  Dont miss the forrest for the tree here guys.  Why is Jorges/skycollection likely to get it?  because he makes fantastic builds using the theories he has learned.
  Now I am not saying throw a bunch of stuff together haphazardly.  But if you have to increase core size increase coil size also. and magnet size and rotor size proportionately.  I feel the magnets to total coil ratio is imporatant here.  The eclipsing action is important.  That is why ED had the moon procession sculptures.  BALANCE!  If this is real we will soon know and the world will change.  Then people are gonna be pissed, when they realize that many people have done this in the past and our way of life could have changed years ago.  This may spark a revolution in more ways than one.  So really be prepared.

nul-points

Quote from: khabe on May 15, 2011, 08:38:34 AM
hi nul,
Looks like you did not drink much Saturday night - you can think today 8)
And so it means that my capacitor fantasying was not insult, even if there was not supercap or ultracap - was just adequate capacitor  ::)
How you did read this is 52.000 cap ??? can be what ever when labels exuviated.
cheers,
khabe

hi khabe

some people say that i can ONLY think when i drink...

but last night it was just bottled water because i had to drive

we dedicated our final song last night to you:  "Won't Get Fooled Again" by the Who  ;)

it got the most applause of the evening - but that COULD be because everybody knew we weren't going to play any more songs


i think that SkyCollection mentions the cap value in an onscreen comment near the beginning of the video

his cap is not very much greater than the 47000uF cap on Romero's device

in self-run mode, when Romero's drive i/p is regulated at 12V then his cap has 15V

15V on 47000uF is approx 5.3 Watt-seconds

Romero's drive draws 12W

the maximum time which Romero's cap can drive just the motor is approx 0.5 second

in his self-run video, after the battery is disconnected, the motor is run at different drive levels for testing the effect of the DC converter, but the length of time which the motor is driven at 12V is at least 10 minutes (600s)

to power the motor for this long would require 12 x 600 Watt-seconds = 7200 Watt-seconds

when Romero disconnects the battery at the beginning there is 15V in the 47000uF cap - equal to 0.53 Watt seconds of energy

where did the remaining 7194.7 Watt-seconds come from?

gotta run - have some errands!

see you later
np


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khabe

Quote from: bourne on May 15, 2011, 09:15:33 AM

What a legend this guy is.

Not only is building this extremely enjoyable but the side-show entertainment is brilliant.

Bravo, bravo.

Someones have sense of humor, someones not  ::)
cheers,
khabe

khabe

Quote from: nul-points on May 15, 2011, 09:20:31 AM
hi khabe

some people say that i can ONLY think when i drink...

but last night it was just bottled water because i had to drive

we dedicated our final song last night to you:  "Won't Get Fooled Again" by the Who  ;)

it got the most applause of the evening - but that COULD be because everybody knew we weren't going to play any more songs


i think that SkyCollection mentions the cap value in an onscreen comment near the beginning of the video

his cap is not very much greater than the 47000uF cap on Romero's device

in self-run mode, when Romero's drive i/p is regulated at 12V then his cap has 15V

15V on 47000uF is approx 5.3 Watt-seconds

Romero's drive draws 12W

the maximum time which Romero's cap can drive just the motor is approx 0.5 second

in his self-run video, after the battery is disconnected, the motor is run at different drive levels for testing the effect of the DC converter, but the length of time which the motor is driven at 12V is at least 10 minutes (600s)

to power the motor for this long would require 12 x 600 Watt-seconds = 7200 Watt-seconds

when Romero disconnects the battery at the beginning there is 15V in the 47000uF cap - equal to 0.53 Watt seconds of energy

where did the remaining 7194.7 Watt-seconds come from?

gotta run - have some errands!

see you later
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

hi nul,
Yeah, cap may be not faked, may be just forged ...
Perhaps you do not reckon with energy what simultaneously still comes from generator side  - perhaps run time will come longer than you calculated,
cheers,
khabe

CLaNZeR

Quote from: lasersaber on May 15, 2011, 09:16:40 AM
Quick update.

Nice build, looking forward to seeing more.

Cheers

Sean.
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