Muller Dynamo

[Tudi]

@ltBolo : right, 10 wats motor for 3 hours. With this presumption your finetuning has a small meaning also. Once we would understand the reason why this OU exists, we could concentrate on the scaling of this particular part only.  Then the whole finetuning of the parts might get not important at all.
OU on a graph is supposed to have an ascending wave form, maybe due to some broken mirror cycle. Like a perfect magnet approach / leave the coil would be a sine wave. But here we want that some part of this wave to be non perfect / mirrored that would leave to a non 0 integral result.
I guess if you have a wave analyzer it might help you a lot to finetune your device = make it break the perfect repeating loop cycles.

[Hoppy]

The following is a list of input voltage and current readings at the closing stages (12:19) of the first video: -

12.25V, 0.92A - Bulb on.
12.45V, 0.94A - Bulb off.
12.47V, 0.94A - Bulb off.
5.86V, zero A  - Bulb off.

Question: Why do we see the voltage rise from 12.45V to 12.47V, then fall to 5.86V a split second after. It looks to me as if something is switched off at the instant of time between 12.47V and 5.86V.

Hoppy

[LtBolo]

That's an interesting analysis but there may be even more to it after that.

I'll guarantee there is. I was just trying to plant the seed that this isn't about building a good dynamo, it is about finding the same sweet spot in a very complex interaction of coils and magnets that RomeroUK did. Still haven't convinced myself specifically what the device is doing, I am certain that you can build many, many COP < 1 versions of it before finding the combination that yields COP > 1.

In playing with Howard Johnson magnetic arrangements in FEMM, to the extent that FEMM is properly modeling reality, there are definitely repulsion configurations that yield a net directional bias. With the stator magnets providing a repulsive bias, this may just be a special case of what HJ was doing, where the net directional bias is yielding a reduced rotor loading that can be translated into usable electricity. If that is the case, it should be possible to put together a configuration like this with just PMs where when the distance is just right, it self turns. That was what I noticed in FEMM, it was when the fields were fairly weak that the bias showed up. Interestingly enough, HJ pointed that out in his patent, and Mylow notwithstanding, I had no problem demonstrating in FEMM what HJ claimed.

So maybe this is just a HJ-inspired reduced-drag Muller Dynamo, that when built efficiently and looped properly, produces marginal OU. It would be great for that to be true. If so, it would be far easier to design the components since you could simulate the magnetic interactions to find the optimal parameters.

[i_ron]

Ron

sorry to find that you removed your post

i don't think it's a case of 'no interest' - more a question of a large number of people getting dragged into bl..dy stupid wild-goose chases

would you reconsider your edit & repost for us please?

maybe today we can regain focus on the issues at hand

thanks
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Well I said that, but... I was not sure my 'conclusions' were correct. So not wishing to post unproven material I took the expedient of waiting for awhile.

Maybe later, I need more information. I thought this was something simple but it is turning into a John Bedini "nothing is hidden, I have told you everything", when in actual fact the operation is hidden and will only be found by six very smart people who's lips will be sealed, whhhhaaaaaa

Ron

PS: it was just about the efficiency of the series drive coils and how they extend the drive pulse.

[xenomorphlabs]

I love that everyone is jumping in building replications (I mean that sincerely), but I feel a more important task would be inventing a tamper proof clear perspex box to test devices like this - just initial thoughts.

For example, a clear perspex box that has the device in question (i.e the Muller Dynamo) running in a self looped fashion that is powering a timer (that has digits for Years, Months, Days, Hours, Minutes, Seconds) that when closed (the box that is) can not be opened again with out breaking the tamper proof seal. Thus (attempting) to prove the device/s longevity of self looping over unity.

THIS is the real challenge.

Good Luck, post pics when you have done it.
Just be prepared that after your effort to build it, some critic will then tell you that you beamed microwaves inside or coupled to powerlines etc.