Muller Dynamo

[Tudi]

People with replication should have a close to 1 COP. You are using the same size generator coil as motor coil. If you are doing it right, you are circling the same power in the circuit. If you are not close to this COP=1 then you are doing something wrong. Most probably your motor part is doing both a pull + push where one of them is bigger then the other, but it still consumes power to do both. There is also mechanical loss (friction ) which at low RPM should be max 30% power consumption ?... Considering you are using 7 generator coils of the same size of the motor coil, you should have a really minimal resistance loss, get even closer to COP = 1
Having a cop 1.1 might sound a measurment error in this motor generator setup.
BUT some people manage to make runaway setups, that is way different then a 1.1 COP. Like romerouk switching to low RPM and then device speeds up again. Now that is magic for me.

[itsu]

Hi all,

Quote from Romero:

Let's clarify some points regarding the sensors:
not both of them are using the small magnets.I started originally with both using the small magnets to switch then I tried to move one to get max results.
The second one is facing the big magnets from the top.This one from the top is activated after the magnet passed, the other one on the side of the rotor is activated like 1mm after the magnet passed the center coil.
This is difficult to explain, testing yourself will get you there but do the testing separate not both of then at the same time.

Does this statement from Romero (see highlighted part by me) not imply that the motor coils are working in repulsion?

Regards Itsu

[k4zep]

Hi all,

Does this statement from Romero (see highlighted part by me) not imply that the motor coils are working in repulsion?

Regards Itsu

Hi Itsu,

That statement has bothered me too.  Is the wide pulse on one coil, acting in attraction, and the short pulse to the other coil acting in
attraction or repulsion?  That it makes such a hammering sound, makes me think that the short pule is also attractive and after TDC......doesn't make sense though.........but could it be to kick that rotating field around?  Winding coils/making bobbins/thinking.

It was good to hear that others have small work spaces, keep at it gang.  This motor/gen is like baking, it is the small things that
will mess with us.

Ben K4ZEP

[TommeyLReed]

We'll looking at this Muller design, their is no way you can get 100% efficient, even if you can, this would stop turnning any way. You would need more then 100% to spin the motor at a constant rpm, you cant just spin a motor without extra power. No different then any generator at a 60hz, the rpm is the wasted energy before you pull and load from it...
I would say the best way to prove the efficiency is to use two capacitors, one as the primary(battery), and the other as the output storage. If this unit need 12v@1a(12w) to run, then you will need a big capacitor in farads to do testing.

[Tudi]

A nice intro of understanding what kind of effect shortening of a coil has, is following lession from MIT on Eddy Currents, although it's a rather long video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpO6t00bPb8

watched the video. Really nice and educational ( at least for me ). Sounds like there is a way to time the coils to repel/push the magnets instead pull, just need to make some math for it.