Muller Dynamo

[nexuses]

Greetings from an interested onlooker!

A acquaintance of mine is a very experienced electrical engineer with a broad knowledge in many other areas including physics. If I point him at unusual material on the internet that challenges his views of the universe, I usually get back short blunt "explanations". He always, however, remains open to the possibilities and would be happy to be off petroleum! So I keep sending them.

I sent him romeroUK's videos, pdf and the article written Sterling Allen and Hank Mills.

This was his reply, a distinct improvement from the usual..

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"If this works I suspect that it's not 'free' energy.... I suspect that it's working from the earth's motion (Coriolis effect) somehow. Meaning that if lots of people made these things, it would start to slow the earth's rotation. Not sure I'd want to be responsible for that! Someone should do the physics.

Please ask them to do load tests with the Muller unit oriented as follows:

1) Horizontally (as per the original Romero configuration)
2) Exactly as per (1) except 180 degrees inverted
3) 90degrees (Vertically oriented plane of rotation) with the Muller axis pointing geographic SOUTH
4) As per (3) with the Muller axis pointing geographic NORTH
5) As per (3) with with the Muller axis pointing geographic EAST
6) As per (3) with with the Muller axis pointing geographic WEST
7) Repeat (1)..(6) with the generator rotating in the reverse direction.
If you compare an AUSTRALIAN replication with a UK replication then there should be some kind of direct or inverse correlation in the way power output varies.

If this is the Coriolis effect, there should be significant changes in power in the different orientations.

For example, it may fail to 'start' when vertical.
It's a relatively straightforward test to perform and would be really interesting.
If this is the Coriolis effect then the generator will be taking energy out of the earth's spin.

If somebody near the equator has one they should get a markedly different power output.... maybe someone could fly to Indonesia or something?

Of course...if there's anyone with enough resources...take one of them up into space and see if it still works....maybe give one to Virgin Galactic?"
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Well, that was the best response ever.
  Thanks for that guys!


All jokes aside, it was a serious request from hard core electrical engineer.

If the replications go well (and we all hope they do) then at some point
"somebody should do the physics". That will definitely help the up-scaling process.
That is what comes next.

If there are two very similar performing builds in different hemispheres
that would be a good enough starting point. Hopefully a few weeks
will see us all in that place.

My best wishes to all the replicators!

Nex

[lanenal]

Likely little to no effect will be observed beyond what romeroUK would have observed I presume due to the thickness of his stator plates top and bottom I believe this would be a non issue if you observe romerouk's thickness vs clanzers he even went as far as to etch the washers down far enough to where they were in spec with the distance of romerouk's device so I believe this is a fairly concrete replication and if it does not work there are adjustments and a few additional things to try but beyond that I would personally consider it near debunked.

Debunked by just one failed replication when there is no way to verify that the replication is close enough? We don't even know the permeability parameter of the ferrite core in Romero's build.

No real success does not take patience and a lot of failed trials.

[kEhYo77]

Hi. I'm on this as well, I'm just a little short of money for the components so it goes slow. I would like to put some thoughts on the matter.
From what I know RomeroUK had been working for a while with coil shorting and in my opinion it is somehow incorporated in his design.
From recent disclosure of Ismael Aviso coil shorting technique as the main overunity factor I think it must be true and if not, some of You builders must try this.

So the generator coils should be 'open circuits' until a magnet reaches TDC, then you short the coil for a fraction of second and you open it again and then collect BEMF.  The coils should be wound bifilar, in series (Tesla) because such winding has much bigger energy capacity in comparison to a standard coil. In coil shorting it will be far superior as it is in a sense a coilpacitor of sorts. So for those of you using Litz wire it is just a matter of doing some soldering and proper timing.

I think Romero might be using those tiny magnets for timing of this process...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEaY17NeK_I

[Tudi]

Coriolis effect ? Isn't that so small / slow that it should be invisible to an 1000 RPM motor ? Slowing down the earth rotation ? Thanks god the mass of gases (atmosphere) did not do that over a few thousand years due to inertia ( or it did ? ).

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From what I know RomeroUK had been working for a while with coil shorting and in my opinion it is somehow incorporated in his design.
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I think Romero might be using those tiny magnets for timing of this process...

hi kEhYo77

it's true that Coil Shorting was one of Romero's main experimental interests just up to, and around the time of building his Muller replication

he did mention on his forum that he was intending to include coil shorting in the Muller rep

however, soon after he presented his preliminary results (April 03, iirc) and photos of his Muller build, his friend commented that there was no coil shorting included and Romero did not say his friend was mistaken (although he corrected his friend about some other statements which he felt were incorrect)

it is also evident that the Muller rep. device he used for his preliminary results at the beginning of April was unchanged from the device he presented here and in his videos, at the beginning of May (including the stator magnets on 5 generator coil positions)

the generator coils connect directly to the 7 FWBRs and these are parallel-connected into the buffer cap - no switching

the small magnets at the side of the rotor are only used to trigger one of the drive coils


i agree that later it might be worth trying to add coil shorting techniques to this build - but first it is important to see if we can replicate what Romero presented, before we start changing the target

good luck with your build!
np


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