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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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Jdo300

Quote from: poynt99 on June 18, 2011, 09:01:53 PM
bolt,

OK, thanks.

What was your circuit and what were you tuning?

.99

Hey .99

I believe this was the general circuit he was referring to in his post:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg291520#msg291520

- Jason O

bolt

i cant remember right now how i had it setup as i have to simulate a passing magnet by injecting energy into two out of phase transformers then using a series tuning cap and a current shunt in the loop i was able to show different tuning as ideal, undercoupled and over coupled.

If you go right back to Steven Mark TPU and within his notes says something like " you should study the effects of out of phase transformers its most interesting"   what he was getting at here was his system is purely reactive between each collector loop is out of phase to the next one to produce max VARS. This is how i knew years ago banging coils with in phase spikes generate stinging and dangerous magnetic EMP's is NOT the road to OU.  What you need to do with ALL these type of systems is make lots of VARS = KINETIC energy where you do everything you can to prevent your circuit creating a magnetic field within itself by cancelling in phase currents. The easiest way to learn all of this is to use Rotoverter Technology as tuning to RLC parameters allows current consumption to drop to very low values and a pulse width controlled inverter can run a 5 HP motor on just ONE watt. At standard 120v tuning you can achieve 10-15 watts to run a 3 phase 5 HP motor at full speed around 3000 rpm and weighing 100 pounds.  This makes your pulse Muller motors rather shitty using 12 watts to spin a bit of plastic at only 1500 rpm!

The magnetic flux on the other hand is very large around the motor as the ambient energy rushes in to the coils that are in pure reactive. 

poynt99

Quote from: Jdo300 on June 18, 2011, 09:21:21 PM
Hey .99

I believe this was the general circuit he was referring to in his post:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg291520#msg291520

- Jason O

Hi Jason, thanks.

Nice to see you're still around from time to time. :)

Nice rig and neat bench. ;)

.99
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e2matrix

Slightly off topic but in a way I think it's important.  An interesting little situation I stumbled into that supports what bolt is saying just happened.  Just yesterday in the process of looking for something in a supply store I was asked by the owner what I needed it for.  To make a long story short he kept prodding me and we ended up talking about alternate energy.  He told me about a guy he knew up the road who had an industrial type place which used a number of large electric motors and that he had converted some 3 phase motors to one phase and they did something special.  I mentioned Rotoverter and he said yeah that sounds familiar.  He said this guy needed power to get this 'special' converted motor running but once it was running he ran the whole place from the power it provided and that it even ran his electric meter backwards.  He said he has not actually seen it in person but this guy knows everyone around here and knowing the culture here as I do it's very unlikely he's making this up.  Apparently this guy is very old now and no longer runs this place but I'm planning on trying to look him up to see if I can get a look at this setup.  I'm still kicking myself for not picking up a good size 3 phase motor at a garage sale that was $10.


poynt99

Quote from: bolt on June 18, 2011, 09:23:18 PM
i cant remember right now how i had it setup as i have to simulate a passing magnet by injecting energy into two out of phase transformers then using a series tuning cap and a current shunt in the loop i was able to show different tuning as ideal, undercoupled and over coupled.
I have an idea what you are getting at. It would be nice if you had the sim text file  though.  :D

Quote
If you go right back to Steven Mark TPU and within his notes says something like " you should study the effects of out of phase transformers its most interesting"   what he was getting at here was his system is purely reactive between each collector loop is out of phase to the next one to produce max VARS. This is how i knew years ago banging coils with in phase spikes generate stinging and dangerous magnetic EMP's is NOT the road to OU.  What you need to do with ALL these type of systems is make lots of VARS = KINETIC energy where you do everything you can to prevent your circuit creating a magnetic field within itself by cancelling in phase currents. The easiest way to learn all of this is to use Rotoverter Technology as tuning to RLC parameters allows current consumption to drop to very low values and a pulse width controlled inverter can run a 5 HP motor on just ONE watt. At standard 120v tuning you can achieve 10-15 watts to run a 3 phase 5 HP motor at full speed around 3000 rpm and weighing 100 pounds.  This makes your pulse Muller motors rather shitty using 12 watts to spin a bit of plastic at only 1500 rpm!

The magnetic flux on the other hand is very large around the motor as the ambient energy rushes in to the coils that are in pure reactive.

I'm a little confused with your discussion on VAR. You are referring more or less to power factor of 0, correct? With high VAR, you still can have high current, it's just that it is 90º out of phase with the voltage. You often mention zero current though, so it's somewhat confusing to me. Where am I misunderstanding?

Thanks,
.99
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

Simple Cheap Low Power Oscillators V2.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=248
Towards Realizing the TPU V1.4: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=217
Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments V1.0: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209