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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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bolt

Nothing on the free energy scene is free! Its a VERY expensive hobby. Some people think you can spend 200 dollars buying some magnets and a reel of copper wire and that's it.  If you put your food and rent money into these projects.....well that is just gambling on odds > 100 million to 1 chance you get anything back. This is not to say this is all fake as its very well recorded in history OU devices are real. Replication has always been the problem even when presented with a full set of plans.

If it wasn't for the fact i personally know of looped machines like RV's and Kone's generators then like you i just might have taken a step back for a moment and  looked for a reality check! Alas for me this is not the case. I always said only those with a near perfect skill set, probably an EE tech trained, a HAM guy as tinkering with RF type circuits is very useful and are the ones most likely to succeed and of course no shortage of money cos you need plenty to keep stocked in a constantly supply of parts.  Romero is often spending 200 or 300 pound at a time on cores, magnets, rotors etc.

For everyone else then you may be better off sticking with a joule thief and having fun lighting 100 LED's :)

And so just a few days ago no one was able to even  get a lug free load running of any description but there are a handful of people now heading in the right direction.

plengo

Guys, keep focus. Great work k4zep and thanks for continuing learning and sharing your experiments. Chet - Don't bother with those non-sense "I found the hidden wire". It is much easier to say that than to build and learn and share.

@4Telsa, wattsup please don't post here with non-sense. I asked to be focused and polite. If you want to debunk this, fine, open a thread (ops, there are many already) and post there. You are a moderator at OUR so you know better what it means for me here.

I have deleted many useless posts (some were actually funny) but unfortunately they only clutter things unnecessarily. I think we have found already MANY evidences that RomeroUK may indeed be showing the truth.

This is NOT an easy motor to build, it is showing some very difficult to explain phenomena and it is matching our great bolt member's theories. More I play with this motor more I believe in Romero's motor.

For now, I will remove ANYTHING that is not positively or experimentally or legit questions on this thread. Let's see how things goes next week.

@Woopy, did you try the capacitor "series/parallel" in your setup? what did you find?

I have done the same tonight and I also have the same increase in speed when coil is shorted and slow down when load is less than short. Very interesting indeed. My next challenge (which bolt explained already to no worry yet) is to increase the output power. I am playing with only one pair-set of generators and one pair-set of drivers. Once I got this one right I will move on to the next 7 gen coils and the second driver coil.

Fausto.

chrisC

Quote from: bolt on June 19, 2011, 09:32:41 PM
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And so just a few days ago no one was able to even  get a lug free load running of any description but there are a handful of people now heading in the right direction.

Thanks Bolt! I've just tuned my first coil set in buckling mode and like Ben, I've seen the (almost) perfect sine wave with output current dropping off to zero and max. volts at the bridge output. Just needed to get some finer value capacitance and adjust the tuning magnet relative positions. The rotor spins at 1400 rpm at 15VDC input. More to come next week.

cheers
chrisC

Jdo300

Quote from: bolt on June 19, 2011, 06:11:48 PM
I know some of you are wondering how exactly does rotor increase speed faster while under a load?

The magnet charges the virtual capacitor layer between the coils and displacement currents will rush in to try and maintain the balance because the coils are operating as a NEGATIVE INDUCTOR which sucked in energy into the loop. Remember we are operating in purely reactive mode so the opposite happens to normal conventional current in phase induction. This inrush of ambient energy produces an outward pulse of magnetic flux which propels the rotor faster because it happens to be of the same polarity of the neo that just passed off Top Dead Centre :)  So each side of the coil releases a corresponding magnetic pulse of the same polarity as the magnet just a moment after the virtual capacitance field begins to decrease the coil now releases energy taken into its core from the ambient.

In order to make sure this pulse acts uniform and equally from both sides the back end magnet acts as a magnetic bias adjustor to ensure that the magnetic pulse is equal from both sides will maximise the pushing effort to accelerate the rotor under higher loads.

You can also see why a core with a very high Permeability like over > 50,000 will be able to store more joules to be released at this moment thus Romero studied carefully the effects of Mu-metal and other exotic core materials.

Can you see how convenient this is for us. We have in effect a CONTRA BEMF of even better an ASSISTED ELECTRO MOTIVE FORCE as the reaction is positive in our favour. While when the coils are operating in normal entropy mode they accept the lines of flux cutting from the permanent magnet and convert directly to a  current in the coils. Once you have induced current BEMF is always the result  as the resulting  magnetic kickback is opposing our driving force thus slowing down the rotor.

Hi Bolt,

Interesting. I was just wondering how the acceleration effect works myself. So could we say that because of the "induction" interacting with the electric component rather than the magnetic component, that the response of the changing E-field/displacement current is a magnetic field, which just happens to aid rather than retard the magnet's motion?

@Everyone,

I repeated an old experiment I did a long time ago involving the use of two pancake coils stacked on top of eachother with a third, smaller coil sandwiched in the middle (see attached pic). When I first came across this effect, I referred to it as a sort of one-way induction, but later found out that it was really an effect of electrostatic induction.

For the experiment, I hooked the top and bottom pancake coils so that they were in the canceling configuration ((S-N <CENTER> N-S) and drove them with my function generator (sine wave) @ about 400kHz or so (so the impedance would be high enough to not tank my function generator's output signal). I then placed the scope across the input and also the output coil to measure the open circuit voltage.

What I found was that when in canceling mode, the induced voltage was 768mV pk/pk. Then I took one of the pancake coils and flipped it over so the coils' fields added rather than canceled. I then noted that the induced voltage was 5.6V pk/pk. So in the canceling mode, my coupling was about 13% of the non-canceling value.

Next, I connected the function generator to the center coil and scoped across the two outer coils, which were then wired in series aiding configuration (N-S <CENTER> N-S). I confirmed that the output voltage was about 15-20V. When flipped around in the canceling configuration, the output was again reduced down as in the first case. But here's where things get interesting.

I then swept the frequency until I drove the two outer coils into their natural resonant frequency. Again this is while the coils are still wired in the canceling configuration. At resonance, the output open-circuit voltage rose to over 88V pk/pk with my function generator inputting less than 20V pk/pk. I then repeated the same experiment with a tuning capacitor in series with the output coils and noted that the effect still worked (different, lower resonant frequency).

So my point here is that we can still stimulate the resonance of the circuit even when using bucking coils. I believe the cancellation would probably be better if using a bifilar canceling coil rather than bucking coils (still need to test that) but just thought I would report my results :).

- Jason O

poynt99

Quote from: Jdo300 on June 19, 2011, 10:05:27 PM
I then swept the frequency until I drove the two outer coils into their natural resonant frequency. Again this is while the coils are still wired in the canceling configuration. At resonance, the output open-circuit voltage rose to over 88V pk/pk with my function generator inputting less than 20V pk/pk.
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So my point here is that we can still stimulate the resonance of the circuit even when using bucking coils.
Jason,

Did you try the sweep again but this time with the pancake coils wired in series-adding? If so, what was the pk/pk voltage at resonance?

.99
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