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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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plengo

I also created a video last week and it has been an night mare to upload it without sound glitches. So I uploaded anyway.

The video shows the same effect as our other member mariuscivic where many different loads shows the change on RPM. In my case shorted is the best RPM. I show 4 different loads,
a 10 ohm, 100 ohm, 1k ohm and shorted on the AC (after resonance caps) and on the DC side of the FWBR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrrtX9rgEW8

Sorry for the sound problems but it is a long 15 minutes video that I did my best.

Fausto.

poynt99

Plengo,

That would be the expected output of such a wiring configuration; it's bifilar series-canceling.

However, my understanding of the Tesla pancake coil connection requires that you "cross-over" wire1 from one end, to wire2 at the opposite end. That's the Tesla bifilar.

.99
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konehead

jsut to make clear again a little simpler description this time, the soon to be tried out idea, hopefully not by just me;  is to run the backemf/recoil from the motor coil #1 into those particular generator coils that will push away the rotor magnet during the motor coil #1's motor pulse.

Motor pulse is attractive, so the backemf/recoil will create a repuilsive direction to a another rotor magnet since all magnets in romero rigs are same polarity as motor coil magnet so tis pretty simple.

Run all those "generator" coils you select to be hit with the bqackemf/recoil in seires first,  so impedance is as high as you can get...maybe even include the "neutral" coils too in the series hookup (those coils that have magnets so fara away from coils during motor coil pulse that you figure they wont do a thing)  jsut to make impedance even higher dont know about that if good idea yet...
do same thing with motor coil #2 also - selelct those coils that will push away the rotor-magnet if they get an oppostive polarity pulse to them; and during the #2 motor-coil pulse.
When taking out the backemf recoil, I usually like to use a FWBR of shottkys over the switching, and my swtihcing is bidirectional mosfets, so the swithcing is acorss drain pin #1 and drain pin #2 but simpler way is single "steering" diode running out off the mosfet/transistor...If you do it right, and have say 10uf DC cap being filled by the backemf/recoil you should have 200V in that cap instantly if impulse to motor coil is 12V...bigger caps fill slower, have less voltage in them instantly...

anyways instead of dumping into a cap as is usual, dump into genrator coils, "turning"  them into motor coils is whole idea and there are quite a few of them working as generator coils jsut sitting there doing nothing on the muller-rigs (except causing lenz-lug when you load them! ha)
Select those that will cause a same-direction rotational power-pulse to the spin - those that are lined up to push-away the rotor magnet (not pull it) during  the motor coil pulse.

also there will be no cancelesazion of coils field here - that is happening wiht the shorted bifilar approach idea also being tried out here too but tha is whole other subject and approach.
No cancellezation because the motor coils are insulated/isolated from the backemfrecoil pulse going to the gernator coils selelcted, by the "steering" diodes orthe FWBR that guide the backemf/recoil out obviously...
also you can figure figure the motor coil during off period is generator coil too - sort of other subject there venturing into but I think you all get idea.

Bill Muller used to always tell me "let the backemf do the work for you" a million times he told me that so this might be it - it should cause the motor to acclerate in spin where it gets scary and everythign blows up if this works right - also what happened to Romero and he went with the DC to DC convertors to control it....



wattsup

Quote from: Magluvin on June 26, 2011, 03:08:14 PM
Not to clutter it up more than it is?  You are part of that clutter with all that wire x baloney.   Mags

Maybe one day when you put up your e-mail address in your profile you will get direct e-mails from silent builders asking so many questions. But I did not expect anything less from your remark. By the way, when has Romero answered any of your questions with so much detail? lol

Quote from: Magluvin on June 26, 2011, 03:44:39 PM
Good stuff Marius  How did ya do it? Mags

If I can take a stab at it, he probably distanced his stator plates far enough from the rotor to produce only 3.25 vdc at 0.21 amps or 0.6825 watts. Loaded or unloaded or shorted, would not make any difference since the low level drag is to far away to act on the rotor. Just guessing of course.

wattsup

k4zep

Quote from: mariuscivic on June 26, 2011, 03:11:44 PM
I just connected my coils so that they cancel  the current.

Take a look  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9lj7o5CORY      ;D

Hi Mariuscivic,

EXACTLY how did you connect your coils up? 
Shorting is VERY IMPRESSIVE with no effect.

Very nice video

Ben K4ZEP