Muller Dynamo

[itsu]

OK guys, as i did not get any response to my post #3550: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.3550 i was trying something myself with this parallel resonant thingy.

Basic setup is a rotor with 4 neos's, Norths facing out.

1x driver coil pair alike romero (sewing bobbins, core 6mm OD / 11mm long, 2x 1.27mH/1.7 Ohm, Hall triggered).

Generator coil is 6x AWG 24 on core 10mm OD / 35mm long (6x 10 meter wire) wired in series.
Each of the 6 wires measures 0.73mH/1.4 Ohm. When in series it becomes 27mH/8.7 Ohm.

According to http://www3.telus.net/chemelec/Calculators/LC-Calculator.htm i need to add 40uF capacity to get parallel resonance at 150Hz (= 2250 RPM of the rotor).

Generator coil layout is like this (w1 connected to w2, W2 connected to W3, W3 connected to W4 etc.):   (see the video for drawing).

Input power is 10V/0.6A

Result is that we see across the generator coil the sine waveform as expected for resonance, so not the typical "magnet passing coil" waveform.

RPM speeds up under load (4x leds at 5V/22mA) and also when shorted (after the FWBR, so DC side).

I expect when adding a 2nd gen. coil in series (so creating a pair), the needed cap (40uF) needs to be halved (or reduced) to get resonance again at 150Hz (this reduced capacitance will probably be beneficial for the voltage as right now the inductance/capacitance ratio is way off i think).

Note that i did not notice any phase shift (90 or 180 degrees) between I (across the 1 ohm resistor) and V (across the coil).


Picture of the generator coil circuit attached.

Video of this can be seen here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syxL4f2OsPg

Be aware that the generator coil is 27mH, and not uH as can be seen in the video, also i use only ONE drive coil pair, not 2 at the moment.

Regards itsu

[FreeEnergyInfo]

magnetic bearing ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R4QQmCY4JU

2 coil /24v = 230v

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQnvMNWK9mk

[i_ron]

Romero statement "people pay attention to 'bolt' posting,  he is describing another way to do this and he is right, actually using capacitors will take you there more easy, if not, you need to build the coils according to many factors to replace what the capacitors will do."

Don’t let it go to your head.

The other way to look at this is…IF romero was under an injunction to NEVER reveal ‘the secret’, then you can understand why he would recommend the last person on the list that he felt would ever be in a position to explain the real workings but who could, in the mean time, lead the forum around in endless circles.

Wattsup raised some valid points that have not been addressed fully.

AND

"I only find few people who are really trying to understand and replicate this device.If you don't understand it, then is no point to continue, here or any other project, making a copy is not enough.

Note the complete negativity of this statement. We are to "cease and desist" undertake no experiments, unless we understand them???

How do we learn unless we experiment? How should an experiment be presented? In a positive manner. With a working device that is complete, offered with an explanation of, "if you do that then watch for this"

Cordially

Ron

[Paul-R]

I was reading about Adams motors here http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt2.html
and there are lots of similarities. I read:

" The drive coils should not be pulsed until they are exactly aligned with the rotor magnets even though this does not give the fastest rotor speed."

I remember Patrick speaking of this at the 2007 UK Free Energy Conference.
There is an essential but subtle difference with the Adams "modus operandi":

The work is done by the iron core on the stator being drawn to the magnet.
When it gets there, the magnet becomes a nuisance, and its effect must
be NEUTRALISED by the application of a current. That is all. There is no
intention to use the current to do any pulling or pushing.

Very important distinction.

Paul-R

[bolt]

Don’t let it go to your head.

The other way to look at this is…IF romero was under an injunction to NEVER reveal ‘the secret’, then you can understand why he would recommend the last person on the list that he felt would ever be in a position to explain the real workings but who could, in the mean time, lead the forum around in endless circles.

Wattsup raised some valid points that have not been addressed fully.


Note the complete negativity of this statement. We are to "cease and desist" undertake no experiments, unless we understand them???

How do we learn unless we experiment? How should an experiment be presented? In a positive manner. With a working device that is complete, offered with an explanation of, "if you do that then watch for this"

Cordially

Ron

These are statements from Romero he is trying to help you understand the "secret" through self discovery he is encouraging experiments not suppressing them.

If he wanted to deliberately   pick a person to knock everyone off course why did he include me with Kone and couple of others that have a better understanding of what is happening here? Perhaps picking wattsup was a much better choice. By backing him he could have convinced everyone it was actually fake and he could of done his own thing in peace!

SM often mentioned some people by name or thread that had a generally better understanding of how his TPU worked. Same as SR193 with his kapanadze replication he said he will not just lay everything out on a plate for easy pickings he wants people to understand the principle operation is the ONLY way replications can take place.  The recent history has shown that there are many "replications" now but they didn't just spin and work did they? You may not like the DIY discovery but you will find those that have working devices and understanding always want people to understand the method first. Even Hector does this with his RV technology.

There are NO shortcuts.