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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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e2matrix

Quote from: d@rkenergy on June 28, 2011, 06:52:02 AM
A friend of mine told me yesterday:
Do not try this works!

If you make a machine that produces the free energy, can distort the balance of energy in the universe. and as a result can be a very big disaster ... is this true? :o :o :o

lol ...  I think your friend is thinking about a device that truly creates energy rather than what most people here are aiming for which is tapping unseen or unknown and less understood energy sources.  I'd leave those concerns more to those who have equipment like the Haldron super collider. 

e2matrix

Quote from: scratchrobot on June 28, 2011, 01:44:32 PM
hmm I ordered some FWBR's to test this effect but still waiting for them to arrive. Like I said before, I remember Romero saying that he had found another way of shorting a coil by only one component so he didn't have to use the reed anymore. I hope it is the FWBR.

I know there was some discussion about what type of FWBR's Romero was using on his Muller, maybe someone knows?
I think it's somewhere back in this thread as someone had gotten a good closeup of the number on one of them.  OTOH it might have been on one of the other forums.  I think it was a KBPC and probably KBPC608 or 606 or somewhere in that vicinity. 

konehead

Hi Scratchrobot

You know when an iron core gets magnetized, and polarized, by a motor coil wrapped around it when it does its pulse, the iron core doesnt suddenly all by itself return to a neutral state, or "default" state of polarity - -  as it will "stay" that polarity it just was induced to, when it was energized by the motor pulse..
So, when next magent comes up, it will clash with that polarity and will want to run backwards (backemf forces or lenz effect in motor coil you could call it) - if your motor runs attracive, then rotor magnet will want to pull back, if it runs repulsive, it rotor magnet will knock itself backwards to the same polarity core...
In ORBO motor it works exacly as you described, the core pulls rotor magnet to it and the torroid coils neutralize the core, and the roto rmagnet passes by un hindered...
Anyways that is sort of what regauaging/helper magnet does on back of motor coils in a Bdidni or Adams motor and should be doing on back of gernator coils too in the romeor rigs - it causes the polarity flip to happen very quick so the rotor magnet wants to pass by unhindered by any pull back or clashing magneic forces.... "regauging" the core they call it.
that is good and interesting point to have the motor coil pulse occur exaclty at TDC even though this might not be the highest rpms or anything sort of like the null-zone so no advantage spinnnging one way or other but still the core will be energized one way or other by how you wind those coils around it and which way current goes through so still you will have problems with the core staying in its "induced polarity" when it would beneift the rtoation of motor to be oppostie at certain times in rotation...Bedini has a sliding magnet bhind his motor cores in his motor-patent...maybe Adams figured to do same thing somehow too but it wasnt in his early dcouments...I found I get half the draw with a magnet behind the motor coil's core and your video shows similart thingtoo in the speed up you get but anyways thats "why" you get speed up - the magnet teetertotters the core so it flips right over jsut when it should
I think you know all this anyways...

scratchrobot

Quote from: konehead on June 28, 2011, 02:38:04 PM
Hi Scratchrobot

You know when an iron core gets magnetized, and polarized, by a motor coil wrapped around it when it does its pulse, the iron core doesnt suddenly all by itself return to a neutral state, or "default" state of polarity - -  as it will "stay" that polarity it just was induced to, when it was energized by the motor pulse..
So, when next magent comes up, it will clash with that polarity and will want to run backwards (backemf forces or lenz effect in motor coil you could call it) - if your motor runs attracive, then rotor magnet will want to pull back, if it runs repulsive, it rotor magnet will knock itself backwards to the same polarity core...
In ORBO motor it works exacly as you described, the core pulls rotor magnet to it and the torroid coils neutralize the core, and the roto rmagnet passes by un hindered...
Anyways that is sort of what regauaging/helper magnet does on back of motor coils in a Bdidni or Adams motor and should be doing on back of gernator coils too in the romeor rigs - it causes the polarity flip to happen very quick so the rotor magnet wants to pass by unhindered by any pull back or clashing magneic forces.... "regauging" the core they call it.
that is good and interesting point to have the motor coil pulse occur exaclty at TDC even though this might not be the highest rpms or anything sort of like the null-zone so no advantage spinnnging one way or other but still the core will be energized one way or other by how you wind those coils around it and which way current goes through so still you will have problems with the core staying in its "induced polarity" when it would beneift the rtoation of motor to be oppostie at certain times in rotation...Bedini has a sliding magnet bhind his motor cores in his motor-patent...maybe Adams figured to do same thing somehow too but it wasnt in his early dcouments...I found I get half the draw with a magnet behind the motor coil's core and your video shows similart thingtoo in the speed up you get but anyways thats "why" you get speed up - the magnet teetertotters the core so it flips right over jsut when it should
I think you know all this anyways...

Thank you very much for the nice explanation, I did not know this, thanks to you guys I know more every day. I really appreciate it  :)

scratchrobot

Quote from: e2matrix on June 28, 2011, 01:09:10 PM
Note RomeroUK left a comment 1 hour ago on this video saying: "Hi,
Do you get any difference like amp increasing from the source while the output goes up or down?I cannot really see it from the video, too small...
If it is stable enough then you are close to one of the effects I had in my setup.
When you find the best spot get a magnet and play with it arround and watch the meter.

Best regards,
Romero"
His user name listed RomeroUK on youtube so he's our Romero ;)   Sounds like a good hint here...

BTW does anyone know who diveflyfish is?  His work in the vids are impressive although I wish he'd leave the music off when talking.  If he's not on here maybe we should invite him here?  (I do see some hints of a cleaned up IST though - hehe - music blaring, types in all CAPS.)

Thanks for pointing that comment out.

About the FWBR, if it was the KBPC608 Romero used then it was really oversized!! Why would he use 7 BIG FWBR's and also put 28 diodes parallel to them?

KBPC608:
Type:   KBPC 608
E(AS):   6
I(F (AV)):   6 A
I(FSM 50 Hz):   100 A
I(FSM 60 Hz):   109 A
I(RRM):   10 µA
U(FM):   1 V
U(RRM):   800 V
T(C):   50 °C

I really think/hope the FWBR is doing more than rectifying, big thanks to diveflyfish for pointing that out.