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Muller Dynamo

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Dave45

#3825
June 29, 2011, 09:41:51 PM
cool video ,  so if the high voltage coil (regenerative coil) stores energy inside couldnt we wrap the coil with Mylar in between the windings and increase its capacitance

is this what Lasersabre did with his coils

Bruce_TPU

#3826
June 29, 2011, 09:46:37 PM
Hello ALL,

I have just this evening, returned from my journey.  I had the privilege of visiting Coral Castle, and speaking with someone who knew Ed.  I have a myriad of photos and some interesting new "items" to put out there, but will do that in another thread, within the next few days!  Also working on my TPU!

Let's talk "strands"....(litz)  Funny, how I mentioned this over 200 pages ago (and in the last few pages of my thread) and it has come up again. 

Penno and all, how many turns did Romero say he had on his bobbin?  Over 300 turns.  Everyone's comment was, "he is mistaken, that many turns can't fit!"  Wrong!  As I explained in my thread, before Romero ever had his device working, as I explored the statement's of Steven Mark, about parallel wires, you can take litz wires and wire them in series or parallel.  The "potential" (total wattage) will not change, but wired in series you end up with MUCH HIGHER VOLTAGE.  And I think a few of you were wondering "how" Romero achieved this.

In the experiments presented by Slider (yes, I have been reading while on my journeys...) and spoken of by Penno, what they are calling a "bifilar" wound, is what I call "series" wound.  Some are in parallel but some are in series.  Let's assume that your 7 strands gives you just over 100 turns on your bobbin.  Now, let's say you connect the wires, 123 ends to start of 4567, you now have 200 turns and have doubled your inductance (air core, then adding inductance of ferrite core)but raised your resistance.  Inductance trumps resistance for wanting higher voltage.  Now, let's go with Romero's winding, of say 300 turns, then to achieve that, please do the following, and you too will end up with MUCH higher voltage (lower current.  Current causes LENZ, NOT voltage).

Wires are (a) for start and (b) for end...  Take wires 1a and 2a, and connect together.  This will go to your FWBR.  Take 1b and 2b and connect to 3a and 4a.  Connect all four together.  Next take 3b and 4b and connect to 5a, 6a, 7a.  Connect all 5 wire ends together.  Next take wires 5b, 6b, 7b and connect to other side of FWBR.  Now you have 300 turns and MUCH higher voltage!   ;)

Hope that helps ya'll.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Magluvin

#3827
June 29, 2011, 10:04:25 PM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on June 29, 2011, 09:46:37 PM
Hello ALL,

I have just this evening, returned from my journey.  I had the privilege of visiting Coral Castle, and speaking with someone who knew Ed.  I have a myriad of photos and some interesting new "items" to put out there, but will do that in another thread, within the next few days!  Also working on my TPU!

Let's talk "strands"....(litz)  Funny, how I mentioned this over 200 pages ago (and in the last few pages of my thread) and it has come up again. 

Penno and all, how many turns did Romero say he had on his bobbin?  Over 300 turns.  Everyone's comment was, "he is mistaken, that many turns can't fit!"  Wrong!  As I explained in my thread, before Romero ever had his device working, as I explored the statement's of Steven Mark, about parallel wires, you can take litz wires and wire them in series or parallel.  The "potential" (total wattage) will not change, but wired in series you end up with MUCH HIGHER VOLTAGE.  And I think a few of you were wondering "how" Romero achieved this.

In the experiments presented by Slider (yes, I have been reading while on my journeys...) and spoken of by Penno, what they are calling a "bifilar" wound, is what I call "series" wound.  Some are in parallel but some are in series.  Let's assume that your 7 strands gives you just over 100 turns on your bobbin.  Now, let's say you connect the wires, 123 ends to start of 4567, you now have 200 turns and have doubled your inductance (air core, then adding inductance of ferrite core)but raised your resistance.  Inductance trumps resistance for wanting higher voltage.  Now, let's go with Romero's winding, of say 300 turns, then to achieve that, please do the following, and you too will end up with MUCH higher voltage (lower current.  Current causes LENZ, NOT voltage).

Wires are (a) for start and (b) for end...  Take wires 1a and 2a, and connect together.  This will go to your FWBR.  Take 1b and 2b and connect to 3a and 4a.  Connect all four together.  Next take 3b and 4b and connect to 5a, 6a, 7a.  Connect all 5 wire ends together.  Next take wires 5b, 6b, 7b and connect to other side of FWBR.  Now you have 300 turns and MUCH higher voltage!   ;)

Hope that helps ya'll.

Cheers,

Bruce

But no mention of increased capacitance?  Romero said we needed to increase the capacitance. He stated that we could just use regular coils and add a cap.  But he also stated that we could get it by having the coil in a different configuration. ;]  bifi. I stated that and he confirmed it. If anyone should know, its Romero. He had the working model.

here is my post on the 14th

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=11009.msg290900#msg290900

And here is Romeros post just after mine

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=11009.msg290925#msg290925

So why is the capacitance not important Bruce?  I think its key.  So says Romero.

Mags

e2matrix

#3828
June 29, 2011, 10:29:41 PM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on June 29, 2011, 09:46:37 PM
Hello ALL,

I have just this evening, returned from my journey.  I had the privilege of visiting Coral Castle, and speaking with someone who knew Ed.  I have a myriad of photos and some interesting new "items" to put out there, but will do that in another thread, within the next few days!  Also working on my TPU!

Let's talk "strands"....(litz)  Funny, how I mentioned this over 200 pages ago (and in the last few pages of my thread) and it has come up again. 

Penno and all, how many turns did Romero say he had on his bobbin?  Over 300 turns.  Everyone's comment was, "he is mistaken, that many turns can't fit!"  Wrong!  As I explained in my thread, before Romero ever had his device working, as I explored the statement's of Steven Mark, about parallel wires, you can take litz wires and wire them in series or parallel.  The "potential" (total wattage) will not change, but wired in series you end up with MUCH HIGHER VOLTAGE.  And I think a few of you were wondering "how" Romero achieved this.

In the experiments presented by Slider (yes, I have been reading while on my journeys...) and spoken of by Penno, what they are calling a "bifilar" wound, is what I call "series" wound.  Some are in parallel but some are in series.  Let's assume that your 7 strands gives you just over 100 turns on your bobbin.  Now, let's say you connect the wires, 123 ends to start of 4567, you now have 200 turns and have doubled your inductance (air core, then adding inductance of ferrite core)but raised your resistance.  Inductance trumps resistance for wanting higher voltage.  Now, let's go with Romero's winding, of say 300 turns, then to achieve that, please do the following, and you too will end up with MUCH higher voltage (lower current.  Current causes LENZ, NOT voltage).

Wires are (a) for start and (b) for end...  Take wires 1a and 2a, and connect together.  This will go to your FWBR.  Take 1b and 2b and connect to 3a and 4a.  Connect all four together.  Next take 3b and 4b and connect to 5a, 6a, 7a.  Connect all 5 wire ends together.  Next take wires 5b, 6b, 7b and connect to other side of FWBR.  Now you have 300 turns and MUCH higher voltage!   ;)

Hope that helps ya'll.

Cheers,

Bruce

Funny that is exactly what I was thinking after watching the video tanakat just posted here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1weXYivARo  from ThaneCHines and his talk about Lenz and voltage and current all lead me to the conclusion that what you just said Bruce is very important.  I do know it's been discussed before and some have been leaning this direction in the last couple days since Slider shared his demo but I think it just really sunk into my own head after seeing Thane explain things about Lenz in that video.  I think this is definitely an IMPORTANT part of getting this to OU.   

e2matrix

#3829
June 29, 2011, 10:43:33 PM
Mags,  R didn't use caps on his looped setup did he?  Other than the big one on the output.  So wasn't he saying this is just another way to get the effect or maybe enhance it?  I think it may be just yet another way to get around the problem of Lenz.  Litz or Lenz - what's it gonna' be?  You can't have both - hehe     

Just had to say that that way so now maybe I'll remember it  :)
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