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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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xenomorphlabs

I noticed the peculiarity of those spikes also when i watched your video the first time.
Spikes means something has "switched" somehow.
A theory would be that there is maybe really magnetic vortices formed that
act as if an additional magnet passes by and triggers such spike.
Or the biasing magnets somehow flip domains as a consequence of a vibration resonance. Just first thoughts.

No idea about the yellow waveform truncated. Have you tried to go to 10x on the probe and see if there is a difference?
Have your reverse the ground and probe leads to see a difference?
At what points have you connected the probe exactly? You say across the resistor. That's before or after the rectifier?
Really just guessing.

Keep it up

konehead

 

Fausto - that was great post about your testing on the nice day with the backing magnets...I havent got to this stage yet but will be soon...I am wondering:
Do you have same airgap on top as the bottom?

Have you checked this out how it will affect things?
Webby jsut mentioned this too he sees differnt airgaps between top and bottom in romeor rigs...
I disagree with Webby in "reason" Romero abandoned this machine is becasue ists not pratcial - its because dumbass creeps threteened him and his family if he continued with it plain and simple.

Fausto; Is your load only a 1ohm resistor?
do you have this on each coil as you go along with the backing magnet adjust?
Or do you have still 1 ohm resistor across more than one coil as you go along doing more bakcing magent adjsuts?
wouldnt it be better to match the resistance of the motor coils that will be run by the dump cap in looped-mode? say 6 ohm or so total for all the genrator coisl combined lik eit would be?
doesnt Romero leave some of this generator coils "blank" in the looper video?
Seems like only 5 are really filling the cap...
Anyways jsut thinking that he load when you adjsut the backing magnets should be the load that it would be when looped...






plengo

Quote from: konehead on July 17, 2011, 01:18:55 PM


Fausto - that was great post about your testing on the nice day with the backing magnets...I havent got to this stage yet but will be soon...I am wondering:
Do you have same airgap on top as the bottom?

Have you checked this out how it will affect things?
Webby jsut mentioned this too he sees differnt airgaps between top and bottom in romeor rigs...
I disagree with Webby in "reason" Romero abandoned this machine is becasue ists not pratcial - its because dumbass creeps threteened him and his family if he continued with it plain and simple.

Fausto; Is your load only a 1ohm resistor?
do you have this on each coil as you go along with the backing magnet adjust?
Or do you have still 1 ohm resistor across more than one coil as you go along doing more bakcing magent adjsuts?
wouldnt it be better to match the resistance of the motor coils that will be run by the dump cap in looped-mode? say 6 ohm or so total for all the genrator coisl combined lik eit would be?
doesnt Romero leave some of this generator coils "blank" in the looper video?
Seems like only 5 are really filling the cap...
Anyways jsut thinking that he load when you adjsut the backing magnets should be the load that it would be when looped...

My probes are connected as picture. I only use one ohm for the probe 2 (Yellow). The lamp is around 25ohms which is ALWAYS connected when tuning.

I kept putting bias magnets until maximum speed was reached. May be Romero achieve his OU before even having all bias magnets on. Another thing I noticed is that bias magnets are not really necessary all positioned with the same polarity, let's say North down agains rotor's magnet North up. Sometimes switching makes a huge difference. That's the empirical mind instrument at work here.

I think the load resistance should match the coils series resistance for sure. I unfortunately don't have a good lamp. I stoped using LEDs because I thought they were causing those spikes but they are not, it is indeed there and I can't explain it.

I just purchased the remaining FWBR and connections that I need to finished the motor. Everything is really expensive. I think by now I spent over $500 on this motor alone.

I have been playing with all sorts of gaps. This particular video is 3 mm bottom and 5mm top.

And just my stupid theory: if the first sine wave of the voltage (as on the previous post picture) is "free" than I think when connecting all gen coils one will have 1/2 of the power produced available for "free" while the other 1/2 half is doing work in spinning the rotor.

Fausto.

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: webby1 on July 17, 2011, 01:41:02 PM
I can't do that, but wires are the same ones that have been posted as X and Y, in the found pic if you look thru the upper stator you will see the cut end of the red wire just under the block that holds the driver circuit.

Not really, nature does what it wishes unless something gets in the way,  the hole or cavity in this sense blocks the advancement of the field, so it goes around the hole, this gives us a point of potential imbalance that we only need to nudge.  I prefer to not force nature so much, but rather give it something first and offer a choice of paths.

I should of said steel or iron but I have to use the soft version so I can hand form the cores.

What does the Lenz reaction look like in just the core, change the angle of the core and the reaction field and such still look the same, now think like an idiot (that would be me) and totally screw with the relationships of core and conductor.

Simple things and Eddy currents

I should have asked you if you actually talk about a driver or a generator coil.
It sounds as if you refer to the driver coil.
I am particularly interested in beating Lenz in a single generator coil.
If in a generator coil i change the angle of the core i also affect the picked up current.

If i change a magnetic/geometric property of the core, in my understanding it will negatively impact on the induced current as well.

The goal is to prevent that opposite current from flowing
If not using coil-shorting, i have found no solution yet that achieves that.
But i'd be more than happy to hear a solution to this problem.

i_ron

Quote from: plengo on July 17, 2011, 01:52:28 PM
My probes are connected as picture. I only use one ohm for the probe 2 (Yellow). The lamp is around 25ohms which is ALWAYS connected when tuning.

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Fausto.

There is a problem with your scope probes. You are only reading one of the coils voltage, hence the unbalanced scope shot.

To accurately measure different parts of the circuit you need to isolate one channel of the scope.

I addressed some solutions to this in an article in Syscomp...

http://www.syscompdesign.com/AppNotes/current-measurement.pdf

I hope this link takes you there... if not look under app notes, customer applications and circuits.

Ron