Muller Dynamo

[mondrasek]

FWIW, I started to perform a more accurate testing of the low resistance load range where I thought my set up may have been "phase locking" with ZPE.

When I was in that low Ohmage load range I again noticed that my metering "anomalies" were again present.  And the L/C oscillator button on my DMM was definitely OFF.

So I had to again assume that the fact that I could no longer meter my system (stability) is due to some out of system interactions.

I went back to @neptune's thoughts that I might have an antenna effect from the DMM.  And that effect should be measureable if I changed the effective antenna wire length.

So I tried attaching several different lengths of wire to my drive motor Vin ground line.

The longer the wire that I attached, the lower the RPM of the motor would be dragged.

On a hunch, I ran out a length of magnet wire about 1.5 times as long as the wire that is wrapped on my coils.  With one end of this wire attached to Vin ground of my drive motor I would witness a sever decrease in RPM.

I made sure that the other end of this "antenna" wire was not in contact with ground.

And so I have been testing how my (supposed) ZPEC responds to having this antenna wire on the Vin to it's drive motor.

I was cutting 20cm off of the "antenna" wire, piece by piece, and recording the results.  The data looked to show a cyclical relationship, but I have not finished cutting any shorter than the length that is wrapped on the coils, and so have not decreased the antenna length to under ~ 20 ft.  I plan to do so when I can get back to working on this...

The reaction of the system to this test are very interesting to me.  And so I thank you again @neptune.

M.

[scratchrobot]

Romero also said he took a long time tuning. What tuning can he possibly do with coils glued to the rotor  and the whole assembly built?? can only be a few things.
- Biasing magnets on top and bottom of rotor.
- Load type , specifically resistance.
- Distance of stator/coils to magnets on the rotor.

Thanks good posts!
Maybe he glued the coils one by one who knows.
What type of FWBR's are you using?

[neptune]

@Mondrasek You know , sometimes the world amazes me . There are are guys on here who know ten times as much as me , so it is satisfying when occasionally one of my crazy ideas has some basis in reality . The fact that the effects of cutting your antenna is "cyclic " says to me that there are standing waves on the wire . If you can establish what length of wire corresponds to one cycle , that will represent a quarter wavelength  of the energy that is being received ,. It is also  possible that this wire is a transmitter antenna that is robbing energy from your machine , rather than a receiver antenna .

[mondrasek]

It is also  possible that this wire is a transmitter antenna that is robbing energy from your machine , rather than a receiver antenna .

I agree and was initially disappointed that adding the antenna wire caused the RPM to drop.  But I believe that the RPM rose when I first detected this anomaly with the DMM.  But that was also at a different resistance (about 10 Ohms lower).

I am hopeful that as I shorten this "antenna" the rotor behavior will change from an RPM drag to an RPM increase on one of the cycles.

If the resistance is a key to this puzzle it would be unfortunate.  Since I am basically destroying my magnet wire as I cut down this "antenna".  And I am now critically low on magnet wire.  I can buy more, of course.  But "Mr. Westinghouse" is not sponsoring my research so I do not look forward to further expenditures.

As luck would have it, my wife was in a bit of an incident involving her car and some inanimate (hopefully!) object late last night.  No one (that we know of) was injured. I have learned about it from the note she left for me only this morning.  So I will be staying home from work today in the name of "spousal support" and should have time to finish this antenna length investigation.

M.

[plengo]

One important question would be: How much power can you transfer to a load without the bias mags compared to with?

Note, you should be able to get a good idea what the output is capable of even though it quickly slows without the bias mags applied. Take note of the brightness of your bulb for the first few seconds after connecting it, then compare that brightness to the same bulb driven off the output with the bias mags applied.

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without the bias magnets I get about 1/2 of the voltage when with bias magnets.  Same for current.

Also the bias magnets somehow helps in achieving a higher RPM while still getting power out.  It takes forever to find the right places for them and for each one I have to wait for the rotor to accelerate and stabilize so time for the next bias magnet is right.

If I just manage to run without the bias magnets and get the maximum speed, which is about 1200 RPM, than turn on the load it will create around 150ma over 7volts output on the lamp and off course rotor will in few minutes reduce speed to 50rpm or literally stops.

With bias magnets it will not stop but only loose about 200rpm in speed.

Fausto.