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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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Rawbush

After seeing Romero's comment on bucking coils I think I will try some more test. But first in order to more adjustabilty  up/down I need to modify the rig a bit so that the drive coils always stay in place and don't travel with the gen coils. I would also like to try to make the gen coils adjustable side to side a bit, but that might have to wait till I can rebuild the whole thing. Off to the garage.
Peace
rawbush


resonanceman

Quote from: rfmmars on July 26, 2011, 04:31:42 PM
Had time on my hands so it's up now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGTfGFtcRiM


Great video on winding the Muller coil Richard

Not sure why you did not explain about how to align the magnetite cores.

I have not made aligned cores yet but I read about making cores for Muller motors......... I am not sure where I read  it but it said that you poor the epoxy and magnetite into your mold then stick some Neos on the ends ....... I am guessing a layer of tape over the ends to keep it from getting messy as you put the magnets in place
The magnets are placed so that they attract each other.

It makes sense to me ......the flux lines would be mostly straight  through the core......once the core cures the easiest path for the flux should  be along the original flux paths

gary

wattsup

Quote from: rfmmars on July 26, 2011, 06:14:16 PM
I would start winding the first layer from the front to the back then the next two layers from the back to front stopping each time 1/3 from the start of the first layer. Then to the back and wind 4 layers stopping 2/3 from the start of the first winding, you may come up with a better plan.

On any coil using a bifiler, trifiler, etc setup, if you connect in series the next winding, the inductance is multiplied anywhere from 3 to 6 times depending on coil design. In our case, the first wind with ferrite core had an inductance of 1.9 uh. When all winding put in series, the inductance end up at 126 uh, thats a 66.3:1 . If the magnets passed both ends at the same time, the inductance dropped to 18 uh. The placement in series of the first series winding will has the biggest increase, but there is no gauge to go by in this matter.

Richard

@rfmmars

Thanks for your understanding. Being critical when shown purported working devices does not preclude one from being involved in OU research. I have spent so much money on generator systems to know, so before I get involved in any other magnetic rotary device, I will be looking at all the angles way in advance. lol

Looking at the generator coil in your video, can we also conclude that having the majority of the coil wound further away from the rotor magnets helps in limiting the drag that the rotor/coil would have undergone if it was wound as a full coil since a rotor energized coil also becomes a magnet in its own right while it is under load.

When I say drag, I am not referring to coging since for me coging means how the rotor can free wheel without loading the generator coils. So when you say you have solved the coging problem, for me this does not mean you have solved the drag problem which occurs when the coils are under load, or can you clarify what you mean.

Also as @resonanceman suggests the importance of aligning the core material is an absolute and logical requirement to assist in having the energy reach down the core to the thicker parts of the coil.

wattsup


Hope

I had seen this same coil like design they were used in that Nazi bell saucer   It started with heavy gauge wire and were smaller and smaller gauges as the coil windings were smaller and were thought to be used to bring electrical pressure to a natural building up (like downhill water mining).  I have found a way to also enhance the efficiency of this motor (any motor) by using a Green Camelot magnetic vortex.  I have enhanced the strength and speed of the magnetic vortex by concentrating the focus of the vortex easily done with other magnets.   Glad to share it with any wanting the info.  I believe this is the reason for the difference in magnets on the stators verses the rotor.