Muller Dynamo

[FreeEnergyInfo]

http://video.mail.ru/bk/mopoz/_myvideo/73.html

[konehead]

Hi Ron

thanks for taking a look - not really big deal but I think I am right about the peak if the socpe is showing voltage, not current (maybe not)
I base this on fact if making an AC-signal run motor out of a flat rotor with hockey puck magnets in it, you would space the magnets measured edge-edge, the same distance as the width of magnets (so if 2" wide magnets there is 2" in between the magnets too) and then magnets need to be all-N  or all-S facing...then the AC signal rides right on the EDGES of the magnets and it goes great jsut running off a transformer from the grid or whatever no switching needed..

Anyways in rellation to this, when I check out the positioning of where the very best timing is in DC-pulsed low voltage motor, its the same thing sort of  -  if attraction-mode; the front-edge of the magnet approching to coil is centered on the center of coil for best power and speed - this is AIRCORE - and if repulsing, the back edge of magnet is centered on center of coil (however in high speed repulsing mode you want timing of pulse  with more cenetering of coil to magnet - right over it more...)

and where you pulse a coil against rotor magnets again in DC looking with scope (IN VOLTAGE), its at the sinewave peaks, slightly before or after, created by rotor magnets to coils is place where the motor-pulse occurs so that is why I think that is right what I showed. Maybe its diferent with cores compared to aircores maybe is different at fast rpms compared to very low rpms maybe is different with coil size compared to magnets where the coil is large enough so it reacts to next approachine manget...anyways I think eveyrone "gets the picture" how to do the non-refelcive diode plug swtiching from this regardless.

Jsut read you post again ...and came back to add this - I think your are right if cores in the coil, I am right if large aircore....


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[i_ron]

Hi Ron

thanks for taking a look - not really big deal snip

Jsut read you post again ...and came back to add this - I think your are right if cores in the coil, I am right if large aircore....

Well as this list is about the cored coil romero Muller and everyone is using cored coils but you, then it could lend a point of confusion, so it is important.

Besides, if you understand what I am saying then it will help to see how air coils work.

My scope shot is correct for a single wire, a bundle of wires or a cored coil.

As a magnet approaches a single wire it induces a pulse just as the scope shot shows. When it is centered over the wire the MOTION is about to change from approach to retreat. At this precise moment (TDC) flux is at a maximum but there is no motion, the induced voltage is zero. As the magnet goes into retreat then the induced voltage is of the opposite polarity.

Now what happens with an air core, if the geometry is correct, that is the coil should be bigger than the magnet, then when the magnet is centered over the coil the leading edge is approaching the farside of the winding while the back edge of the magnet is retreating from the nearside yielding a pulse of the same polarity overall. Because the winding is circular one could say that one wire is going up and the otherside going down thus an automatic polarity changer.

An air core is not very efficient because the the top and bottom are just along for the ride and a better air cored coil will have this portion out of the path of the magnet...in other words a square coil. Just the two vertical sections generate... think of the window motor coil.

So you are right... but only if all the right conditions are met. Magnet to coil size, polarity of the magnets, and spacing of the magnets. If any of these are not met then you end up with an "M wave"... or worse.

Whereas what I show is the basic theory for all, from a single wire, to cored, to how each side of an air cored coil works. Is the edge of the magnet approaching or retreating from the conductor(s)...?

Cheers

Ron

Edit:

Here is an example of air cored coils and the shape I was indicating...six coils and 12 magnets on the rotor. It is only the straight sections in the path of the magnet that generate.

Oh, here is a vid of it running

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0OpVdqn6bU

[i_ron]

Hi Ron
snip

Jsut read you post again ...and came back to add this - I think your are right if cores in the coil, I am right if large aircore....

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AIR CORE TEST

Nope, not so... got me curious so went and did a test...

Single ! inch magnet, coil out of the drawer that had a 1 inch plus hole in it

Ron

The inversion should have been corrected to be a rising sine as per the first example but is just the random connection I made and didn't notice until I posted...

[mex]

  "M wave"...