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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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gyulasun

Quote from: konehead on February 19, 2012, 01:39:50 AM
hi all
I made a new video of some speed up and some reduced draw when coils are inserted into stator plates..its only 3 minutes to watch:
http://youtu.be/uaaEdGPO7C8
didnt really spend time tuning the gernator coil with proper size magnet stack on it - just went for 3 magnets since that is what is on the back of the lower motor coil too....probably whatever the resisitive load is going to be in first place should be applied to coil, then distance from rotor magnets and strength of magnets behind cores adjusted...in the case of this video, its a dead-short the "load" to the coil...
Gyula - I know what you mean, I got half the voltage, so also got half the lenz-effect more or less you are saying...but if coils is shorted, and there is a speed-up from magnets behind cores. and drop in draw to motor too, then thats all good...there are many things going on at once: airgap, rpms, load to coil, strength of backing magnets, also the postioning of hte magnets too, not so much directly behind cores, but a few millimeters this way and that way make for more and more speed up when you find sweet spot.

Hi Doug,

Your new video is 'right on the money'  i.e.  you show input current and add the shorted coil with core and back magnets, very good,  thank you.  Now things can get exciting because of the many questions like how much power you can get from the coil when you remove the short, also you may apply the bidirectional MOSFET switch for shorting this coil at the peaks to enhance output,  how many more such gen coils could be used in this setup with the same lack of the drag etc etc.  Keep up the great work.

Greetings,  Gyula

konehead

Hi Crazycut
I got shocked while installing one of those stacks of magnets.
The coil it was placed behind was the motor coil in top plate, and it wasnt shorted either - it was a motor coil that was being pulsed and motor was running, so it must have something to do with the backspike, maybe a "neutral spike' that is funciton of the core, and the steel washer, and I was the conduit to ground....
When I touched the magnet to the flat steel washer, I got a HV sort of shock going up my left arm as I was holding magnets in left hand - it happened to me twice...I didnt make any contact with the coil wires or switching or anything but for the flat washer while holding magnets is interesting thing.

konehead

Hi Gyula
Its very interesting since nothign makes sense with the magnets behind cores. I can see why Romero said he really couldnt explain it in black and white terms and its jsut alot of adjustments and time spent testing to get it right....
I get a big speed up with no cores underneath the magnets, and no coils  - just magnets postioned in their postiions where eventually they speed up the rotor
the strength of the magnets (stack size) is veyr important for the maximum speed up - probably just like resonance, you can go too far with the strengh of thsoe magnets, and it slows so what I do is build up the stacks magnet by magnets unitl I get maximum speed, then when I add one magnet too many in the stack, it will slow so that is as far as I can go....also eveything is related to - as if you have jsut one stack or when you start adding  a set of 4 stacks in their positions on the plates....
anyways the speed up in the video - I can get that WITHOUT generator coils there without cores, without cores being shorted - its a "function" of the "backing magnet" stacks against the rotor magnets....and you have to spend time in placement of the backing magnets and their strength, also sometimes you dont want them all facing same way (Romero reported this too)
so you could say that video is a little deceptive - since the lenz-effect is "still there" but being cancelled-out or "dominated" by the strengthof the speed-up caused by the backing magnets...at least that is how I see it...could be wrong...
what I want to try pretty soon is aircoils and no cores in coils  - then I will have a little better idea in what relationship the cores are to any speed up going on.
Talking generator coils now - but in the MOTOR coils, I think cores are necessary for the big speed up you get with magnets behind them....but could be wrong it might work out aircores work better in motor coils but doubt it right now.

Scorch

I recently wrote some things that I THINK I know about this device including what appears to be a self runner in Carmen Miller's MEMCA presentation video.
Where, at around 54:35 into the video, the dynamo is configured to have all except one channel "off" while using the "excess energy" to power a 120v, 100 watt bulb.

The question in my mind is: When he says 15 of 16 channels "OFF", are these 15 channels completely off and NOT used at all?!?
Or are they merely off as motor channels and only used as generator channels?

IF they are completely "OFF"; does this imply the system may be configured to produce enough "excess energy" to power 15 more 120v, 100 watt, bulbs?

In the photos of Bill Muller's earlier prototype; there are at least 5 bulbs on one side.

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crazycut06

Hi Konehead,
    Ok, its from the hv spike from the motor coil, do you have a shunt diode in your circuit that limits bemf? is it possible that the bemf is huge that it jumps to the core through your hand and your body as a potential ground?
    From what i see in your videos its really possible to have a looper... ;)  can't wait to see... keep it comming! and thanks for sharing!