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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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konehead

Hi Mariu and everyone
here is webpage with lots of pictures of my orbo motor I made a couple years ago:http://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/orbo-design-motorits s sitting on shelf but still runs fine - it ran great and worked fine first try very speedy and good torque - the cores are ferrite tubes and coils wound like torroids through them...I am going to try and stick magnets behind cores next thing, see if it increases speed like Kevin in Canada was reporting.
I dont like the round-ring torroid approach, with things positioned sideways, like Kevin and Mariu and some guys on Naudins site did, since there jsut seems to be so much airgap, between cores and magnets, I cant see how it could be an effecient motor as far as shaft-torque goes, no matter what - in the design  shown here, the magnets are very close to the rotor magnets and airgap make all the difference between good and bad performance....note the worlds simplest commutator - a copper commutaor and brush - this works pretty good too..
newest idea and I have already wound 20 new coils for it, is to make torroids like this with tube-ferrites, then wrap over the torroids and their cores, regular generator winds wound in typical fashion back and forth 90 degrees to the torroids, right on top of the torroids...so it would be combination gernator coil with torroid inside.....could even use both as motoring coils if you want - the orbo torroid pulls, the regular back anf forth wind wound 90 degrees to torroid pushes.....

mariuscivic

Hi konehead

I have abandoned the orbo principal; it is not efficient.
The speed up bifi coil is like you said: one half of the bifilar is "dead" shorted with its leads together, and other half is the load. It is the only one that gives this effect. The other bifi coils that i tested, have not twisted wire like this one. I'll start to twist more wire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j-0CvWYT8w&feature=youtu.be

penno64

Well done Marius,

Now, if you carefully place a biasing magnet behind the core (not directly touching the core) you will also
get an increase in output voltage from the coil. Your 5w lamp will glow brighter.

Regards, Penno

mariuscivic

Hi Penno

In the vid the rotor is NS and when placing a magnet behind, rpm goes up but the voltage accros the load goes down. I must make another rotor NN that supports 3-4000 rpm.
Anyway, I think that with a NN rotor, when placing the magnet behind, voltage will rise over the load but also the rpm will go down.

e2matrix

I have not kept up with this thread for some time.  I don't know if this has been mentioned but I'm going to throw it out there based on some things I read recently that just clicked.  I think the magnets in Romero's rotor were placed so that the poles facing up alternated North and South.  I.E. every other magnet had a North pole facing up with magnets in between them a South pole facing up.   This ties in with some things from Dan Quale's Lenzless motor and would also be why the steel or iron washers were important to have on top of the coils.   This would also help explain the noise and roughness of operation that Romero mentioned.  I was reading a thread on EF where Armagdn03, John Bedini and Peter Lindermann as well as a number of others have started discussing an idea Armagdn03 brought up.  I haven't seen these guys get this interested in something recently and it seems this 'Peg motor' being discussed has some similarities to the mentioned Quale Lenzless motor gen.   I found some references and diagrams on Quale's web site here ( http://www.overunitybuilder.com/lenzlessquale.html ) that jumped out at me as being nearly identical to the Romero/Muller gen.  I just don't think Romero ever gave all the info to us and it suddenly hit me that maybe this was one of the things he alluded to that he said few would figure out.   While I think this could be important I'll add I'm really just shooting in the dark on this but wanted to share the idea in case any of the more brilliant minds here thinks it might have merit to check out.   Since I mostly  quit following this thread many months ago I apologize if this has already been tried or considered.