Muller Dynamo

[avalon]

You might ask your guy to swap generator coils into high voltage ones and try again..

That will achieve no desired effect.
BTW, as far as I know, the author had tried different coils during his experiments with no positive effect.

[T-1000]

It is correct (to a degree). The magnetic side of the effect is instantaneous. It is the electrical component that brings in the variations.

Using high inductance coils to delay the Lenz effect is a well known technique. The delayed reaction is not due to a delay in the Lenz effect but a simple effect of an inductor in a circuit. So, for the time-varying voltage: v(t)=L*(di(t)/dt) and the currect: i(t)=I*e^-(R/l)t.

In other words you can create a delay line (of sort) in an electrical circuit but it won't remove the Lenz effect.

You do not need to remove Lenz effect. Only it is needed to be delayed enough for magnet to pass coil then do useful work instead of creating drag of magnet. So when it is repulsion the magnet will get to another coil and where is attraction it would drag second magnet into coil ...

[avalon]

You do not need to remove Lenz effect. Only it is needed to be delayed enough for magnet to pass coil then do useful work instead of creating drag of magnet. So when it is repulsion the magnet will get to another coil and where is attraction it would drag second magnet into coil ...

It is obvious but still won't work. You can get a speed up under load effect rather easily but creating a self-sustaining generator would be a different matter.

I personally know a lot of people who have been playing with the effect for years. I can assure you that they have tried everything possible under the sun and yet no breakthrough results. It doesn't mean that we have to stop trying, only that a fresh approach is needed.

[konehead]

RomeroUK IS the one who made the "breakthrough results" as first he had a Muller motor/generator with his novel an unique idea of MAGNETS BEHIND THE CORES....and was testing this and making video of it with 11W in and 24W output - its all on this thread at beginning of the long list of posts (NO FAKE)...
then he LOOPED it, with the help of Gyula's idea of DC to DC convertor to control the speed up...Romero took video of this too, and in 8 days someone came by and threatened him and his family and Romero pretty much shut down the project after that.
THAT is the story, all of it still fully documented on this thread too...all other versions of this story are fake and made-up garbage.
IF you do not beleive me, read all early posts from Romero and everyone else.
Romero's discovery of putting magnets behind cores - both in themotor coils and genrator coils it works - has been replicated by dozens getting speed up under load of the gernator coils and doubling speed and power placed behind the motor coils....
jsut type in "speed up under load": on youtube look at who many people replicated it.
here is my video of speed up of motor coils with ferrite cores and "backing magnets' behind the MOTOR COILS  showing dramatic speed up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlgEaZ8Ppc0&feature=context-cha

here is my video of speed up with a shorted-out generator coil and at a certain distance from rotor magnets making gives some good speed up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaaEdGPO7C8&feature=plcp

here is my video of getting speed up with stator magnets on other side of rotor than the motor coils (NOT behind any generator coils or behind any motor coils! so different than what Romero did in that you "dont need" the genrator coils or any cores and you still get speed up jsut from the startor- magent positioning- why I call it the Howard Johnson effect)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRCdPqxleJQ&feature=related

when you build muller generators, more is better, so if you get speed up with one coil, guess what happens when you have 15, or 50 or 60 or 120 coils instead...

[MileHigh]

Konehead:

Yes, when you add extra magnets to a pulse motor it may speed up or it may slow down.  The current draw may increase or it may decrease.  You are changing the configuration of the motor so it is not surprising that the behaviour changes also.

The real question is is this change in configuration and resulting change in behaviour significant in any way?  The answer to that question is no, it's not significant.  By changing the configuration of the motor you change the electro-mechanical impedance of the motor and as a result it behaves differently.

The lesson here is that when you first have results that look exciting, you then need to take a second more thoughtful and more balanced look at your data to see if there really is something there.  The reality is that all RomeroUK replications are under unity, only a fraction of the available battery power becomes rotor power.  The fact that changing the configuration of the motor can change the balance between waste heat power and rotor power is not significant.

The MIB story is just a tall tale as far as I am concerned.  There have been no positive results and nobody ever made a self-runner like they were hoping.  There is nothing special about the RomeroUK Muller motor configuration.

MileHigh