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Tell The TRUTH

Started by innovation_station, January 01, 2008, 05:49:56 PM

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EMdevices

Most TPU researchers would benefit from a DETOUR through Tesla land.

why do I say that?Ã,   Well, try and build a Tesla coil and tune it and learn how it operates, and then with that knowledge you can come back to theTPU research invigorated and full of understanding.

Tesla was a great man for his time, but current science has surpassed him.Ã,   Don't get upset at this, it's just the way things are.Ã,  In a few years others will surpass what we acomplish.Ã,   Tesla realy stood out in front of the pack, exloring unique aspects of electrodynamics.Ã,   I wonder what would attract Tesla's interests now a days?Ã,  If he were living today would be be researching Superconductors?Ã,  Would he be into the atom smashing projects trying to understand the fundamental pieces of nature?Ã,  Would he be working in advanced electromagnetic radar absorbing materials?Ã,   Radio Astronomy?Ã,   Medical Imaging perhaps?Ã,   Control Theory and Chaos theory? Semiconductors and VLSI integration?Ã,  Would he be a computer nerd?Ã,  Who knows, maybe all of them.

To clarify once again for the people that think they know, but know superficialy,Ã,  Tesla played with interesting things, and to the uneducated individual he is way ahead of you and very mysterious.Ã,  But to the educated electrical engineer of today, Tesla is old stuff.Ã,  We have systems that resonate today in ways that tesla could only imagine.Ã,  His intelect did penetrate forward into the unknown, but he also made scientific blunders and made statements that now are know to be wrong.Ã,  But hey, everybody did at one time or antoher.

1) He played with RC and made his little submarine,Ã,  well now the RC discipline is very mature and we no longer build primitive devices like his, when we can use small effiecient RF modules and servos.

2) He conceived the AC polyphase systems, and this is probably his most world changing invention.Ã,  We still use it today and will continue for some time, although semiconductors are creating a mini revolution in how power is distrubuted and how motors are run.

3) The Tesla coil, more of an entertainment device in today's scientific community, still draws admiration from the learned and unleared alike.Ã,  A high voltage amplifying system using standing waves resonace, but proven not to be overunity like some believe.Ã,  The displays we see take LOTS of power to produce.Ã,  One note, some people produce High Voltage from a iron core transformer a lots of turns in the secondary and confuse it with Tesla's coil, and it's not.Ã,   Like I said before, the uniqueness of his invention is that it utilizes standing waves, you don't get that in a iron core transformer, you get normal LC resonance (if hooked to a capacitor) and normal flux induction in the coilÃ,  (it's a highly coupled transformer, vs the Tesla coil which is a weakly coupled tranformer, and that with only the botom few turns of the secondary)Ã,  We should also say that the top loading sphere plays a great role in building up the voltage.Ã,  A sharp wire will leak current right out into the air ionizing it, but the sphere (due to it's large radius) can build to a higher voltage before ionization takes place since the intensity of the Electric field is lower on a larger sphere of the same potential)

4)Ã,  Tesla also made contributions to radio and some argue that he is the true inventor of "radio".Ã,   There is not doubt he was right there with marconi and others and has a ton of patents, regardless, his techniques are old and primitive from our modern persepctive.Ã,  Wireless sciences are well defined now and we are invade by wireless equipment, from cell phones to WiFi gadgest, bluetooth, and the few dinosaur in our back yardsÃ,  (huge AM towersÃ,  LOLÃ,  :)Ã, 

5) Other stuff like turbine, vibrators, medical equipment, etc... met with various success, but most of them outdated concepts , or perhaps outdated in their original presentation since we certainly have big ariliners flying around with tubine engines, and a whole slew of medical equipment.

So what's the point of all this?Ã,  The point is that science has moved on, and if you want to understand physics, electrodyanamics, take a class at your local university. Take a lab class and play around and learn the principles.Ã,  Tesla has nothing "new" to offer that's not thought in school at one lever or another.Ã,  For example when I read his patents I know exactly what he is talking about, albeit it takes me a while due to the style of his writing and the language he used, but it's the same with other writings from that era.Ã,   Knowledge realy hasn't been lost at all.Ã,  Tesla himself gave a few lectures to the IEEE electrical engineering society, he's not an outsider by any means.

Ok enough of my rambling,Ã,  I'll go create some Tesla sparks nowÃ,  LOL :)

EM

innovation_station

stay tuned.........



much more to come

welcome to his wonderful world of truth



seek and ye shall find ......

disect and ye shall discover .......

and hey if you all find the time do your self a favor and find an old microwave  ;)

have a look at the circuit  :o

perhaps this is the first step to understanding  8)

ist 

To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

EMdevices

I have a spare magnetron from a microwave oven, but I don't dare turn that puppy on    :D
I'm too young for cataracts     ;)

armagdn03

Tesla was a great man for his time, but current science has surpassed him.   Don't get upset at this, it's just the way things are.  In a few years others will surpass what we acomplish.   Tesla realy stood out in front of the pack, exloring unique aspects of electrodynamics.   I wonder what would attract Tesla's interests now a days?  If he were living today would be be researching Superconductors?

What is one wire conduction? inductive or capacitive? can I yell supercuductor yet? Seem to remember a researcher named Avramenko sending over many many Kilo Watts over a wire thinner than a human hair........

Would he be into the atom smashing projects trying to understand the fundamental pieces of nature

Probably not, He would probably have consulted those who admittedly had a better understanding than him.......

"Bury your ideas in a vault for a thousand years to await the unfolding of human consciousness to comprehend your vision."  -Telsa- (to walter russell)


Would he be working in advanced electromagnetic radar absorbing materials?   Radio Astronomy?   Medical Imaging perhaps?

"signalling to mars - a problem of electrical engineering"
"talking with planets"
"Teslas's latest advances in vacuum-tube lighting, application of tubes of high illuminating power to photography and other perposes."
"On the Roentgen Streams"
"Roetgen Rays or streams"
"Electrical progress.* On Apparatus for Cathography, By Nicola Tesla"
"On Roentegen Radiations"
"Teslas Latest Results* he now produces radiographs at a distance of more than forty feet"
(all tesla articles published and open to the public!)

Im sure if he were still around, he would laugh, at least a little.


Control Theory and Chaos theory

Need we prepetuate this entropic view any longer?

Getting tired..........
I wish I could turn my brain off sometimes, then I could get some sleep.

innovation_station

my pic simply shows most of the parts inside a microwave


the magnetron is not used in any of my experiments i have tyred

and i do not intend on anyone one playing with it

i saved it for the magnets that is all

the transformer cap  and other goodies is what  i am after  ;)

yes i will be making a video showing a RF flame that can not come from the source battery as i will demonstrate in my simple video

the RF flame is produced when the power is cut from the source this is the kick back bemf re Fe hell call it what you want this is your whole power which we are currently not using  properly

i have built  things yes and so can all of you

but it all begins right here in properly comprehending this pattend


ist
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!