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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Bruce_TPU

#1060
January 17, 2008, 03:55:02 PM
@ blue_

Thanks for the magnet links last night!

I have now ordered my N35 magnets.  Now I will be able to test with boths strengths.  I just have a funny feeling that the N35 is what is needed, and what was used. 

It is obvious from Al's information that this is all about fine tuning, so perhaps with the N35, I can tune to the effect.   ;D  They will be arriving next week.

Cheers,

Bruce 
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

CLaNZeR

#1061
January 17, 2008, 04:00:30 PM
Seems harder to get these new Stator Magnets to latch compared to the Bodged Stators I used before the correct ones turn up.

Spent a couple of hours inserting washers one at a time making the Stators Higher or Lower to try and get the easiest config and also moving the Airgap distance bit by bit, bloody boring stuff I will tell ya LOL

This was without the HDPE surround.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSMkHD3YGHU

Better Resolution at

http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/tests/CLaNZeRSOCMPMMNewStators.wmv

Cheers

Sean.

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Craigy

#1062
January 17, 2008, 04:01:15 PM
Unfortunately no replication can be a true replication. There are lots of un knowns.

The magnets on the rotor, Size yes , type no , test all neos in the size 1/2 by 1/4 inch, i.e n35 , n38, n40,
Find optimum stator spacing
Find optimum air gap
Find optimum stator hieght to rotor.
Be faithfull to the wieghts of rotor and stator.

Examine stators to find out what magnetic friction is present. Replacing bearings with better ones could alter the stator reponse curve to nullify the effect.

Lastly , the neos used in the rotor were old surpplus ones, Perhaps you need to take hammer to them to weaken them before installing. So if you think that in 2 days of testing you will get it to work all i can say is good luck
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sveinutne

#1063
January 17, 2008, 04:01:34 PM
I have looked at Al?s and CLaNZeRS pictures of the magnets at the close passing.
Maybe this is the sync point where most of the action is taking place. The stator is almost brought to a stop at this point. When the rotor has past by some degrees, the stator is accelerated away from the rotor. Then the stator can turn 180 degrees before it is almost stopped again by the passing of the next magnet. This is the case if the stator is rotating 4 times faster then the rotor, when we use eight magnets on the rotor.
If the stator is turning much faster the magnet can turn 180 degrees plus n*360 degrees. So the next sync speed will be 12:1 and then 20:1.

Al mention that he could make the stator sync at 4:1 and 12:1, and that fits nicely with this theory.

I am looking forward till the day we get detailed info of the position of the stator magnet between to rotor magnets.

Svein

CLaNZeR

#1064
January 17, 2008, 04:06:08 PM
Quote from: ken_nyus on January 17, 2008, 12:32:16 PM
From my notes, Al's rotor was 258 grams.

Thanks Ken

Cheers

Sean.
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