Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[Omnibus]

@fritz,

I agree, measuring the actual forces at play is the important thing here. Now we really have to find out what exact magnets were part of @alsetalokin's machine. I think it's crucial for the replication effort. He was saying here and there things, the importance of proper ring magnet-bearing pair (which he only found by trial and error), that the rotor magnets have to be weaker than the stator ones etc. However, he never really gave a specific information about the concrete magnets used. He could've at least measured their induction at the surface and posted these data to really help the replication efforts go in the right direction. Building this machine isn't just lathing and milling parts and putting in some magnets that appear to be the right ones. Jason did a great job drawing the schematics but now another very important step must be undertaken--find out the specific details about the magnets and trying to match them. Like I said, this particular contraption seems to make these adjustments easier compared to some others. Otherwise,  the principle all magnetic motors are based on is the same, despite the differences in design.

[sterlinga]

There is another replicator who is not listed at PES:

Andrea Ganora
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     Part 1:  http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=ICLJKshPdCg

     Part 2:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=jWJwkqjcxdQ

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.  I've added it to the replications page.

I wouldn't include this in the "successful" category yet, though.  I still count five who have exhibited some kind of success, either in the form of accelleration or maintenance of speed.  I don't know that decreased deceleration speed can be attributed to any possible overunity effect.

Sterling

[g4macdad]

Why would you say" two"? I am defending people's right to replicate/investigate this concept. I am pointing out these obvious people with an agenda. What would anyone gain by discouraging this? Think about it!

I'm not discouraging anyone, just warning people that while Bill's efforts in replicating the MPMM may be genuine, his claims may be not. If you didn't know, in 2006 he claimed he successfully replicated the Joe Cell (more details here: http://joecellhydra.com/) and managed to install it in his car which had as a result "tremendous power" while consuming absolutely no fuel, just "orgone". Too bad that a few days later, when people were starting to ask for some more proof and details (somebody also wanted to personally see the Joe cell powered truck) some "MiB"s conveniently threatened Bill forcing him to destroy his plans and his replications and disappear from the Yahoo forums where he wrote about his progresses. As of January 20, 2008, nobody has yet managed to show proof of a working cell despite countless replications attempts (and money spent), Sterling Allan can confirm this. Many people are still wasting money on the Joe Cell hoax because of Bill's "successful" replication in 2006.

Now, how can one manage to replicate something that could solve the oil crisis, completely get rid of it, forget about it and then attempting other OU-like replication projects as if nothing happened is beyond my comprehension. Please allow me to have some doubt in what Bill writes in his posts.

You can doubt all you want. But let the rest of us make our own assumptions, please.

[foxpup]

I noticed that some of the writers here have been talking about acceleration/deceleration of the stators in their MPMM replication.  Based on what I've observed and read, I really think people may be on to something by thinking about rotational inertia of the stator(s).  The two extremes are illustrated below

High rotational inertia (flywheeling) :  Easy to get it to get it to spin AGW in sync with Rotor but with no noteworthy phenomenon present

Low rotational inertia :  Difficult to keep spinning AGW with the Rotor, but demonstrating noteworthy phenomenon (sometimes)

I'm very much a newbie here and have enjoyed reading many of your postings (nearly everyone's)

It just seems that the "nimbleness" or the stators is very critical to get it right.  It might only work in a narrow range.  Since we did see OC's MPMM machine accelerate, I think pursuing the right nimbleness of the stator would more likely bear fruit than playing with different angles.  Try what you want (of course), but I think the vein of Gold is towards the matter of rotational inertia.  Time will tell.

Additionally, the whole Steorn saga that started more than a year ago probably started when superstrong magnets became readily available and people started playing with them.  This kind of strength is almost certainly necessary for the MPMM machines to work.  That being the case we may never have been able to make stators that are "nimble" enough to work well until just recently.  Otherwise our grandfathers would have made the MPMM decades ago and everything would have been different. 

I think it may be all about rotational inertia vs. magnetic strength of the stators

Well, theres my $0.02

Keep up the great work everyone.

[Omnibus]

@CLaNZeR, @Craigy, @vipond50 and everybody else who has the replica of the motor, could you please check what the strength of your rotor magnets is with respect to the strength of the stator magnets? Also, is the movement of the rotor exhibiting a uniform repetitious patterns (four for a full turn) when you turn it by hand?