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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Omnibus

#1410
January 20, 2008, 08:35:57 PM
@btentzer,

Where did you order there N35 from?

Omnibus

#1411
January 20, 2008, 08:42:39 PM
Quote from: ken_nyus on January 20, 2008, 06:50:25 PM
Were you guys able to find stator bearings the same size as Al's?

ID 0.1875, OD 0.5, and 0.125 thick?

That seems to be a hard exact size to find.

Also are these bearings with shields and lubrication/grease inside, or no grease, no shields (you can see the balls) and free running?
The part number of these bearings is R3. I made an error above calling them bearing magnets. Sorry about that. Those with no lubrication inside and shields are faster although there's a certain wobble due to the balls. The wobbling is there with the shield as well. I don't think this is an issue.

Bruce_TPU

#1412
January 20, 2008, 08:45:55 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 20, 2008, 08:35:57 PM
@btentzer,

Where did you order there N35 from?

I am out of town on my laptop, not my home computer with the info.  But it was the company in Washington, that Blue_ posted the link too.  He posted two links, but this fellow called me back and had great customer service.  The were $1.05 each, plus shipping.  Same size as what we want, 1/4" by 1/2".

I ordered 10.  They will be here this week.  I already have my N42's on my play model.  I am also staying with single bearing stator's but upgrading to double precision (two steps up from what Bill, Jason, Hank and I, now have.)  I will test with both.

You or someone here can go back and search the two links from blue, or wait till I arrive home tomorrow evening and I will happily post it for you.

Cheers,

Bruce

1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Omnibus

#1413
January 20, 2008, 08:58:49 PM
@btentzer,

Thanks. Will wait. I've already ordered N38 but won't hurt to have these N35's as well.

Another thing I'm finding to be quite important is the fixing of the rotor magnets in the grooves. Slight disparities seem to make a great difference in the behavior of the rotor. I'm reluctant to glue them because that won't make easy to exchange them. Had them press fitted into the grooves after sticking a piece of duck tape to them. I'm finding out now that isn't precise enough positioning..How do you fix them in place into the grooves?

Bruce_TPU

#1414
January 20, 2008, 09:05:22 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 20, 2008, 08:58:49 PM
@btentzer,

Thanks. Will wait. I've already ordered N38 but won't hurt to have these N35's as well.

Another thing I'm finding to be quite important is the fixing of the rotor magnets in the grooves. Slight disparities seem to make a great difference in the behavior of the rotor. I'm reluctant to glue them because that won't make easy to exchange them. Had them press fitted into the grooves after sticking a piece of duck tape to them. I'm finding out now that isn't precise enough positioning..How do you fix them in place into the grooves?

In our professionally machined rotors, they will be press fitted.  In my rough and dirty toy, I simply placed some electrical tape over each opening to hold them in place.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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