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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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geodan

Quote from: blue_energy on January 25, 2008, 12:39:36 PM
Quote from: dean_mcgowan on January 25, 2008, 04:19:53 AM
Is there any indication of acceleration/deceleration on this video?

I'm very interested in the answer to this question too.  For you smart video people:

In the third video, with the strobe, we apparently see the stator very consistently turning around: no adjustment in speed for the stator magnet relative to rotor magnet.  No acceleration/deceleration.  But - we know that in reality the stator has spun around - what did you settle on, 9 times?   As I think this through, the relationship between the actual speed of the stator and the apparent relative speed of the stator should remain constant.  If the stator slows down, it's strobed image on the video should apparently slow down as well.  Is my reasoning sound here?  Is there any reason to believe that by some trick of the lens the stator is doing anything but keeping to a consistant rpm throughout it's revolution?

I don't know if it's camera distortion or what, but if you draw a straight line from the top of the strip on the rotor to the stator that line seems to drop... again, not sure if this is caused by distortion or stator / rotor acel or decel or what but from what I see it does seem to change...

blue_energy

Quote from: blue_energy on January 25, 2008, 12:39:36 PM
Quote from: dean_mcgowan on January 25, 2008, 04:19:53 AM
Is there any indication of acceleration/deceleration on this video?

I'm very interested in the answer to this question too.  For you smart video people:

In the third video, with the strobe, we apparently see the stator very consistently turning around: no adjustment in speed for the stator magnet relative to rotor magnet.  No acceleration/deceleration.  But - we know that in reality the stator has spun around - what did you settle on, 9 times?   As I think this through, the relationship between the actual speed of the stator and the apparent relative speed of the stator should remain constant.  If the stator slows down, it's strobed image on the video should apparently slow down as well.  Is my reasoning sound here?  Is there any reason to believe that by some trick of the lens the stator is doing anything but keeping to a consistant rpm throughout it's revolution?

No - wait.  That can't be right.  270 degrees per strobe would imply 810 degrees of rotation by the rotor   per frame, which would imply 2.25 revolutions in the stator per frame - but the stator clearly has moved a multiple of 360 degrees.  Maybe it's 270 degrees per frame and 1080 for the stator after all.  But, regardless, my question regarding acceleration and deceleration doesn't really change regardless how many actual (albeit multiple) revolutions the stator makes per frame.

evil-doer

Quote from: blue_energy on January 25, 2008, 12:55:10 PM
No - wait.  That can't be right.  270 degrees per strobe would imply 810 degrees of rotation by the rotor   per frame, which would imply 2.25 revolutions in the stator per frame - but the stator clearly has moved a multiple of 360 degrees.  Maybe it's 270 degrees per frame and 1080 for the stator after all.  But, regardless, my question regarding acceleration and deceleration doesn't really change regardless how many actual (albeit multiple) revolutions the stator makes per frame.
every 90 degrees the rotor turns, the stator turns 360. its a 4:1 gear ratio.

geodan

Quote from: evil-doer on January 25, 2008, 01:11:20 PM
Quote from: blue_energy on January 25, 2008, 12:55:10 PM
No - wait.  That can't be right.  270 degrees per strobe would imply 810 degrees of rotation by the rotor   per frame, which would imply 2.25 revolutions in the stator per frame - but the stator clearly has moved a multiple of 360 degrees.  Maybe it's 270 degrees per frame and 1080 for the stator after all.  But, regardless, my question regarding acceleration and deceleration doesn't really change regardless how many actual (albeit multiple) revolutions the stator makes per frame.
every 90 degrees the rotor turns, the stator turns 360. its a 4:1 gear ratio.

what's going on with the straight line from along the top of the strip to the stator dropping? is that a matter of strobe timing? or accel / decel of the device or one of it's components?

geodan

...maybe it's just me... I was comparing the frames posted here last night instead of the actual clip...