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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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crash_uni8

#195
January 07, 2008, 07:54:43 PM
well this a very interesting video....
lets see....

i noticed that the back stator magnet has less effect on main wheel than the 2 close stator magnets when he spins them in his video.
this could be a slight design flaw...but it might be important!

working with magnets you find that even a 3mm difference in distance with such small magnets equals a lot more or less magnetic force.

the aluminum bars also seem to have some effect on the magnetic flux patterns and not so much a braking effect.
maybe this is part of the key to solving the sticky spot situations with other designs.......

besides the poor lighting and not a full view of this...
it's either the best fake in a while or the real thing...don't get your hope up yet.

Bruce_TPU

#196
January 07, 2008, 10:20:34 PM
Quote from: crash_uni8 on January 07, 2008, 07:54:43 PM
well this a very interesting video....
lets see....

i noticed that the back stator magnet has less effect on main wheel than the 2 close stator magnets when he spins them in his video.
this could be a slight design flaw...but it might be important!

working with magnets you find that even a 3mm difference in distance with such small magnets equals a lot more or less magnetic force.

the aluminum bars also seem to have some effect on the magnetic flux patterns and not so much a braking effect.
maybe this is part of the key to solving the sticky spot situations with other designs.......

besides the poor lighting and not a full view of this...
it's either the best fake in a while or the real thing...don't get your hope up yet.

@ Crash

I made the same observation and mentioned it today to JDO300 (Jason)  He thought that the reason for less effect of the back stator, when Al was turning each one by hand, could be the effect of the dampners on both sides of that stator.  I agree.  If the distance to the rotor and the back stator is identical as the other two stators, and the magnet is identical on the back stator, which it is, then Jason's conclusion seems reasonable. 

I believe that Al stated that the dampers were added later to slow the RPM's,  (What a great problem to have to overcome!! ) so it is not needed to run..

Lastly, if you read all of the posts, it is an incredible story with a great ending, which is really a new beginning.  IMHO.  Very soon, and Jason will have a detailed set of replication cad drawings, and we can go to town on this project.  I am slowing my other projects (not quitting them!  ;) ), just for this, because of the importance of replication, etc.

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

rotorhead

#197
January 07, 2008, 10:39:43 PM
Is everyone waiting for magnets?

Jdo300

#198
January 08, 2008, 12:25:26 AM
Hi Everyone,

OK, I FINALLY finished the 3D model with all the bells and whistles. I modified the rotor disk dimensions to fit the measurements given by Al. I am now working on drawing up some dimensioned drawings from the 3D model and will be posting those soon. In the mean time, here are a few photos of the model I made.

By the way, I also ordered some magnets from K&J Magnetics today so I'm in as well  :).

God Bless,
Jason O

robbie47

#199
January 08, 2008, 03:14:28 AM
Quote from: crash_uni8 on January 07, 2008, 07:54:43 PM
I noticed that the back stator magnet has less effect on main wheel than the 2 close stator magnets when he spins them in his video.
this could be a slight design flaw...but it might be important!

Have a look at the marvelous 3D pictures of Jason.
As you can see there are 8 rotor magnet and 13 stator magnet positions.
It could well be that the top stator magnet of the video is not moving as fast as the lower 2 because of its position w.r.t. the stator magnet at this particular rotor position. So asymmetry could also contribute to be the reason.
Intreging stuff those dampers, I must admit.
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