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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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BEP

Thanks but no thanks Lawrence.

I've kept my comments about this device out of here because I have my own harem of attackers that follow me. No sense in bringing them here. There isn't enough room!

Since Al's posted history would place him in the skeptical knuckle whacker bracket I don't blame him for shutting up. What would you do when your world turns upside-down? Would you go ahead an honor agreements pertaining?
I think reality may have bit him and he is still spinning in his chair wondering what to do. Whether that reality is seeing why it doesn't work or why it does. If 'why it doesn't' then it should be easy. Just report the reason so the rest can go on and the scientific method is complete.

Since I seriously doubt anyone here has run into the 'why it does' problem I doubt you would know what to do. Maybe just shutting up and quietly confirming would be a good first step.

Correct. He owes us nothing. He gave more than most. He did more than most.
If he posts any final working information here it'll probably just wind up in a Chinese patent and part of the Chinese "Post Petroleum Plan".

FunkyJive

@ All OU Pioneers  ;)

WRT audio processing, thanks everyone for your feedback and kind comments.

I applied a couple of Waves filters, one for general EQ and the other as a very high-Q tuned comb filter (Q between 60 and 100 to avoid false peaks on analysis) in an attempt to rid most of the buzz (horrible wideband stuff that walks all over the audio). It's the comb filter that creates a kind of flanging effect, though this is adjustable with a noise/flatness trade-off.

Clearly very good results have resulted from the forensic efforts of others much better than I (I'm only a spare-time musician  ;D), though should you need anything further (in particular, any specific requests) then please never hesitate to ask  :)


All the best,

FunkyJive
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dean_mcgowan

Quote from: Omnibus on February 03, 2008, 04:42:12 PM
@dean_mcgowan,

This needs further explanation (in case there were acceleration):

?there could be an elastic function between the rotor and the stators whereby the stators store some of the energy imparted into the rotor and release it back again
?
If we could see that the stators slowed down in relation to the speed gain of the rotor .. then maybe ..?

It?s one thing a proposed explanation to be a long shot and quite another that explanation to be simply implausible. Mind you, the stators you refer to aren?t even rotating. Probably you could elaborate more on that elastic function proposal.


Your right, there is every chance it is implausible. But I would like the time to think the interactions through before expanding on or abandoning the theory.

Some data relating to relative rotational speeds of rotors and stators before during and after accelleration and deceleration would be a huge help. Preferably not based on audio samples.

Cheers,

Dean

dean_mcgowan

Quote from: Tinker on February 04, 2008, 05:58:51 AM
Dean

My question to you is beyond speculation or theory what facts do you present that contradict ALs information?

Tinker   


COE

Cheers,

Dean

FunkyJive

QuoteSome data relating to relative rotational speeds of rotors and stators before during and after accelleration and deceleration would be a huge help. Preferably not based on audio samples.

Cheers,

Dean

A long-shot but for fear of being dubbed "The crazy old preservist of out-dated analogue"  ;D, how about using stereo audio recording channels to record the changing fields generated by both stator and rotor magnets in combination. The only requirement would be a few tens (?) of turns of an air-cored coil, with two such coils coupled to L & R channels respectively.

This would be really easy to analyse, the loading on EM fields would be doubtless insignificant for a few mV of required signal, and simple to reproduce graphically? All that would be needed is a stereo mic/line i/p that has (say) a -20dB bandwidth down to a few tens of Hz, as I'm guessing that the amplitude would be an irrelevance as it's the phase relationship between the rotor and stator that requires analysis here. However, you could also see elastic wobbles (should they exist) as HF sinusoids co-existent with the fundamental, and perhaps provide the means available to most to capture and compare results like-for-like.

Just a thought  :)


FunkyJive
"Invention has its value, but discovery is priceless"

"Faith from the wealth of negative speculation cannot deny faith from the sparks of promising experimentation"

"A quest of impossible odds is not driven by expectations of what is achievable, but by the certainty of what is not"

"It is not weak minds that perpetrate misconceptions, but strong minds heading in the wrong direction"

"Experimenters seek understanding from achievement, academics seek achievement from understanding, whilst sceptics would seek to deny them both"

"Once the world was flat lest we should fall off. Once man could not fly as he was much heavier than air. And so we arrive at another threshold"

BD Townsend