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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Yadaraf

#2235
February 06, 2008, 03:48:40 PM
Quote from: vipond50 on February 06, 2008, 02:19:06 PM
Quote from: Yadaraf on February 06, 2008, 12:24:56 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on February 06, 2008, 11:23:43 AM
@All,

I'd like to clarify something while waiting for my rotor to arrive (hopefully) tomorrow. The rigs I'm working now have the bearings in the rotor. However, it turned out that @alsetalokin's first video was done with a rig having the bearings in the base the shaft immovably attached to the rotor. Does anyone have more details about that? Drawings, dxf files? I know @alsetalokin appoved Jason's drawings with bearings in the rotor but still it's good to know what the actual construction in the video is. That's the only construction that worked, isn't it?

Omni,

Al's second video -- the one where he detaches the rotor and throws it away -- shows that the rotor bearing is part of the base (I believe).  It seemed similar to a good quality record player turntable that lifts off the motor spindle.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

Cheers,  :)

Yada..
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@ Onmi

Al utilized an old Reel to Reel machine spool for the bearing support that he scrounged for some back alley.
Good luck on finding out what specific machine that was. In my Ver #2 Device U can relate the support concept.

I have been saying more or less all along that Al's the second version.... the one represented on the Video's was the only one that worked to my knowledge. For some reason it seem that the group has blinder on when relating to this. <grin>

Regards
Bill



Omni,

I've attached some pics of Vipond's rotor, which seems to best resemble Al's -- at least the rotor that Al trashed.  It's still not clear to me if Al was trashing the good rotor or a previous version.

Vipond, I hope you don't mind.

Cheers,  :)

Yada..
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IMPORTANT NOTE:  The below picture is the second and newer of two rotor designs.

Please see:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.msg75716.html#msg75716
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Yadaraf

#2236
February 06, 2008, 03:53:02 PM
More of Viponds rotor.

Cheers,  :)

Yada..
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IMPORTANT NOTE:  The below picture is the second and newer of two rotor designs.

Please see:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.msg75716.html#msg75716
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Bruce_TPU

#2237
February 06, 2008, 03:59:46 PM
@ Fausto
That person was me.  And I have moved to using rubber bands to hold the stators.   ;D 

Youtube guys think I am holding a drill in my unseen hand.  LOL  Jeesh I can't win.  No wonder Al got so bummed.

@ JFK
Al never said ceramic bearings.  Al said STAINLESS STEEL.  People assumed ceramic.  And he did not just mean the housing. 

@ Omni
Al had gotten the device to work as we have, with the bearings in the rotor.  He went to the newer setup with the bearings in the base, for greater stability.  It was easier for Jason to design the drawing according to the original Al design.  As Bill mentioned, in the newer design, it was bearing salvaged from an old reel to reel.  Good luck finding that one.

Please try not to let some here confuse.  A lot of talk, making assumptive arguments sound like fact. 

@ All
Has anyone seen this post by Harvey at Steorn:
http://urad.net/forums/WhiPMag/Bearing%20Permutations.xls

Cheers all,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Yadaraf

#2238
February 06, 2008, 04:12:32 PM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on February 06, 2008, 03:59:46 PM
@ Fausto
That person was me.  And I have moved to using rubber bands to hold the stators.   ;D 

Youtube guys think I am holding a drill in my unseen hand.  LOL  Jeesh I can't win.  No wonder Al got so bummed.

@ JFK
Al never said ceramic bearings.  Al said STAINLESS STEEL.  People assumed ceramic.  And he did not just mean the housing. 

@ Omni
Al had gotten the device to work as we have, with the bearings in the rotor.  He went to the newer setup with the bearings in the base, for greater stability.  It was easier for Jason to design the drawing according to the original Al design.  As Bill mentioned, in the newer design, it was bearing salvaged from an old reel to reel.  Good luck finding that one.

Please try not to let some here confuse.  A lot of talk, making assumptive arguments sound like fact. 

@ All
Has anyone seen this post by Harvey at Steorn:
http://urad.net/forums/WhiPMag/Bearing%20Permutations.xls

Cheers all,
Bruce

Bruce,

Thanks for clearing up the issue concerning Al's two rotors.  In Al's first video then, the red pully must be hiding the retaining nut.

Q:  Should I leave Vipond's pics up or are they confusing the issue?


Cheers,

Yada..
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blue_energy

#2239
February 06, 2008, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: Yadaraf on February 06, 2008, 03:27:31 PM
Quote from: JFK on February 06, 2008, 03:11:53 PM
Quote from: mikeytown2 on February 06, 2008, 03:07:03 PM
Pretty soon you guys are going to find that
4 + 8 + 15 + 16 + 23 + 42 = 108

Care to expound on your theory ?

Didn't think so. ;)

Allow me to explain ... before you get LOST ..

Scroll down to the "Numbers" section:

... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythology_of_Lost


Cheers, :)

Yada..
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And - when you multiply them together, they equal 7,418,880 - which, in binary, is: 111 0001 0011 0100 0000 0000.

Add the ones together as if they were base ten and you get: 7 - the universal lucky number.

...coincidence?
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