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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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FunkyJive

#2420
February 11, 2008, 07:07:12 PM
Quote@All,

Has anyone considered yet this might be a xaoh ?

Cheers,

Dean

I believe that the persistence of experimenters working on this project arises from three factors, namely (1) that Alsetalokin appeared to have a working unit that looked quite plausible; (2) the desire to be amongst the first to succeed at replicating the results shown in the original video; (3) it's fun trying.

On the second point, success would result in nothing less than major kudos and pure euphoria for the achiever, and for most is a lot of fun trying the many possible variations and incarnations whilst facing persistent questions and challenges. In particular, having a lot of fun whilst searching for the proverbial golden chalice has got to be worth more than the relatively small investment constructing test model(s).

By way of example, millions of people spend millions every week on the national lottery in the forlorn hope of hitting the jackpot against near-impossible odds, though as they say... "You've got to be in it to win it"  ;)   However, Alsetalokin's convincing video demonstration might be taken to suggest that the odds of success are considerably greater than winning the lottery jackpot and therefore understandable that many experimenters will continue trying to succeed.

Only after the greatest time and effort has been expended could the answer become abundantly clear, though with so many outstanding questions and lack of understanding I believe we're still at the starting block.


All the best,

FunkyJive
"Invention has its value, but discovery is priceless"

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whetherman

#2421
February 11, 2008, 07:41:28 PM
Quote from: MeggerMan on February 11, 2008, 06:49:09 PM

@All,
Anyone notice that Harvey over on Fizzix forum is a lot like Al?...I could be wrong, but I have this funny feeling about it.


Wow, I just went back and read some of Harvey's posts on fizzx.  It does sound a lot like Al.  I think you nailed this one.

ask

#2422
February 11, 2008, 08:05:44 PM
I noticed two things in Al's first video.

At 00:31 when he turn the stator bvetween the dampers, the roter didn't move much. Seems to me the 3 stators megnets are different, the one in between the dampers is weeker then the other two.

At 02:35 when he stops the two stators, they were all facing same direction. But when he realesed his hand, the two black poles turned facing the center of the rotor. Why?

I found his video 3 days ago, read a lot and very excited!

I believe Al discovered something new and we will find out more soon.

Thanks everyone in this game, let's enjoy it to the max!

ask

#2423
February 11, 2008, 09:56:02 PM
Was major in physics. Droped out due to low grades, not able to pass calcules or English.

But this motor got my mind. Really like to donate few sents left in my pocket into the pot. Just thoughts, no theory or math. Don't laugh at me please.

First of all, I believe open minds are believing everything is possible. Time is not ready, science is  young... We have all the possiblities on our side.

In Al's motor (I believe it did came from a dream) design, I see the only known force is megnetic force. The stator megnet works like a piston (in a gasoline motor), gives the rotor a kick in every turn. The kick includs ac/de celeration to the rotor. The good news is, the piston drinks gas and smokes O2 but the megnet kicks for free.

Al's video showed clearly the acceleration force is greater. Why is the question. My guase, timing, angle, phase, megnet stranth etc are all in play. 

Why not? Simple is beauty. Megnet is one of the best gifts God made for us. After we married megnet, we might couquer gravity sooner.

Good luck everyone. It's about time!


Bruce_TPU

#2424
February 11, 2008, 10:17:24 PM
Hello All,

I have been unable to achieve AGW even one time with this new rotor, using N38's in the rotor.  I hope to contact Mike tomorrow about the identical bearings as Al's.  Sorry it is taking a bit.

I did oil yesterday, the rotor bearings.  Reading Omni's post, that was a bad idea.  I have even tried to use a dremel to achieve AGW and it will not lock.  Any ideas?

@ Sean, Omni and Bill and Andrea
Are all of you using screws that are attracted to a magnet, inside of your stators, as Al was?? 

@ Rob
Tell me it isn't so!!  LOL   ;) :D ;D

Cheers all,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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