Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[spacetrax]

Hi,
please show me a magnet motor that can perform work on a generator system, even 1 Watt for eternity, and I will buy it immediately.
I am a realistic man, but I don?t know why nobody has a PMM working to date, that?s why I accept also alternative explanations. I tried myself to make magnet motors, but I failed every time. So, why should I continuously believe that PMMs are possible to build?

Cheers,
Spacetrax

Thats a common explanation i hear form people who have very little understanding of magnetic energy.


using a magnet to push another one away from itself does not "take energy" out of the magnet.
in fact i can place one magnet on top of the other so that if floats, and exerts a constant pushing force of 9.8m/s on the floating magnet.

these 2 magnets will still live a long and happy life. their energy is not being "depleted" by the work done.

The man who said that gets his 'knowledge' from a half-god-voice he hears in his head. this should have been your first clue to take his words with a grain of salt..

[Omnibus]

Hi,
It would be absolutely great to have a working magnet motor. I know that some motors turn around for a while, but what if you put them to perform work? I guess, they will stop!
If you can show me a magnet motor that can perform work for a very long time, I will buy it immediately.

Best,
Spacetrax

I agree with Omnibus. This statement is simply not true.
There is no extraction of energy from the magnets when put to work.
The only degradation of NdFeb magnets occurs when abused, e.g by heat, impact, moist (if surface is broken), 10000 of years in storage.
The magnetism degrades by approx 0.5% each 10-20 years, perhaps lesser than that.
Put in repel will not damage them either. It takes a dynamic field (not from permanent magnet) approx 100 times stronger than a NdFeb can produce.

"...However, he seems to know what is in my mind without asking him, so he begun telling me about magnets. they are like batteries whose energy is very hard to extract, once loaded, that is why the magnets hold their field for tens of years, and this fact lead many people to the FALSE IDEA that a motor made with permanent magnets would run for many years withoud adding energy in the system. But if one tricks the energy out of the magnets, making a magnet motor with them, they will demagnetise quite quickly, maybe in a few days, so this is not a real overunity system.
/Spacetrax

Just the contrary, show me a magnetic motor working for a very short time, say making 10 full turns in a row on its own while self starting and then try to argue with me it isn't OU.

[geodan]

I put a little video together to show some progress on this Tri-gate idea.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tH0qr7rfAw

Mark

Nice work Dusty. it looks very promising! Please keep us informed!

[Omnibus]

I put a little video together to show some progress on this Tri-gate idea.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tH0qr7rfAw

Mark

Nice work Dusty. it looks very promising! Please keep us informed!

No, it doesn't look promising at all. This route of of research has already been understood, it's fruitless and isn't to be encouraged.

[tinu]

...
So, why should I continuously believe that PMMs are possible to build?

Because it?s highly profitable. That?s why.

Come up with a motor design, make it ?working? and make an easy deal with a magnet manufacturer. Bingo!

Now, although simple, few elements of success need to be taken care:
1. The design shall include several magnets, for optimized profit. Too few will not be good for business and too many will scare potential ?replicators?.
2. The type of magnets used shall be carefully chosen, as to allow making a clear deal with the factory. You won?t want to use common magnets. Noo, that would be a big mistake. But rare ones. Either old (N38) or of particular shape and magnetization. Do not worry; there are still plenty of choices. How about the next magnet motor built around ellipsoid magnets? Or pyramids? (It?s in vogue right now). Or even simply cubes but diagonally magnetized?
3. Make the working model as credible as possible and pack it in stories, legends and good marketing. Add conspiracy theory elements! (This is a must). Make the whole story take off.

At 3$/magnet *14 pcs*2k replicators*5% share that?s a mere 4.2k$.
Not too much as a final result, although acceptable for the amount of ?work? done. But the value of total sales (only magnets) is close to 80k. That?s a good ?extra? sale for a company, isn?t it? And marketing is for free, for the same company!
I wouldn?t be surprise if I?d find out that the above-like scenarios are supported (if not initiated) by some interested magnet-manufacturing companies.

If you suspiciously look at the 2k figure, don?t even bother to say that it?s un-realistic assumption. It is not. In fact, considering the world-wide impact through many ?marketing? channels (many dedicated sites, you tube and other movie sites, forums, e-mails, even e-bay!) the figure may be well underestimated.  Out of stock occurrences prove it.

That?s why you should continuously believe that PMMs are possible to build!
And it would be nice to make as many you can to believe the same! After all, it was undoubtedly proven!

Cheers,
Tinu