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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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dean_mcgowan

Quote from: spacetrax on February 20, 2008, 08:09:35 AM
Hi,
It would be absolutely great to have a working magnet motor. I know that some motors turn around for a while, but what if you put them to perform work? I guess, they will stop!
If you can show me a magnet motor that can perform work for a very long time, I will buy it immediately.

Best,
Spacetrax

Quote from: Honk on February 20, 2008, 07:38:52 AM
I agree with Omnibus. This statement is simply not true.
There is no extraction of energy from the magnets when put to work.
The only degradation of NdFeb magnets occurs when abused, e.g by heat, impact, moist (if surface is broken), 10000 of years in storage.
The magnetism degrades by approx 0.5% each 10-20 years, perhaps lesser than that.
Put in repel will not damage them either. It takes a dynamic field (not from permanent magnet) approx 100 times stronger than a NdFeb can produce.

Quote from: spacetrax on February 20, 2008, 01:45:46 AM
"...However, he seems to know what is in my mind without asking him, so he begun telling me about magnets. they are like batteries whose energy is very hard to extract, once loaded, that is why the magnets hold their field for tens of years, and this fact lead many people to the FALSE IDEA that a motor made with permanent magnets would run for many years withoud adding energy in the system. But if one tricks the energy out of the magnets, making a magnet motor with them, they will demagnetise quite quickly, maybe in a few days, so this is not a real overunity system.
/Spacetrax

I would love to see these motors you mention that turn for a while all on their own.. havent seen one yet ?

JFK

Well Dean, I first saw pics of this one in the early 70's... It uses gravity, magnitism, springs, and pendulums... produces no usable output though, unless you count the overcoming of air friction.  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us7YB7eiOeQ

Omnibus

Quote from: JFK on February 20, 2008, 11:51:53 AM
Well Dean, I first saw pics of this one in the early 70's... It uses gravity, magnitism, springs, and pendulums... produces no usable output though, unless you count the overcoming of air friction.  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us7YB7eiOeQ

You obviously haven't followed this story. I visited Finsrud, the creator of that device, personally in 2006 and saw it in action. See the videos I've taken of it during that visit:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=553061720631716456&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3078131163857744253&hl=en

Unfortunately, there are still outstanding questions to be answered to conclude with certainty this is a perpetuum mobile. Unfortunately, Finsrud is too burned out and isn't forthcoming to carry out some simple additional non-destructive experiment.

Craigy

had a nice play today with my geo mags.  am of the opinion that the repulsion at the start of the track overcomes any posible gains.. looks very much to me like sum of the transaction will be zero..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIdnXa-bdlI



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JFK

Quote from: Omnibus on February 20, 2008, 12:31:55 PM
Quote from: JFK on February 20, 2008, 11:51:53 AM
Well Dean, I first saw pics of this one in the early 70's... It uses gravity, magnitism, springs, and pendulums... produces no usable output though, unless you count the overcoming of air friction.  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us7YB7eiOeQ

You obviously haven't followed this story. I visited Finsrud, the creator of that device, personally in 2006 and saw it in action. See the videos I've taken of it during that visit:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=553061720631716456&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3078131163857744253&hl=en

Unfortunately, there are still outstanding questions to be answered to conclude with certainty this is a perpetuum mobile. Unfortunately, Finsrud is too burned out and isn't forthcoming to carry out some simple additional non-destructive experiment.

My reply was to Dean's question...
QuoteI would love to see these motors you mention that turn for a while all on their own.. havent seen one yet ?

So where are your pics/videos of your replication ?

Did you replicate it ?

< How does it feel Omni ? >