Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[sm0ky2]

i posted one solution for the Tri-Force
HERE

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4142.0.html

[spacetrax]

Hi,
yes, maybe you are right and most PMM stories are invented by magnet manufactureres who want to sell their production 

Cheers,
Spacetrax

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So, why should I continuously believe that PMMs are possible to build?

Because it?s highly profitable. That?s why.

Come up with a motor design, make it ?working? and make an easy deal with a magnet manufacturer. Bingo!

Now, although simple, few elements of success need to be taken care:
1. The design shall include several magnets, for optimized profit. Too few will not be good for business and too many will scare potential ?replicators?.
2. The type of magnets used shall be carefully chosen, as to allow making a clear deal with the factory. You won?t want to use common magnets. Noo, that would be a big mistake. But rare ones. Either old (N38) or of particular shape and magnetization. Do not worry; there are still plenty of choices. How about the next magnet motor built around ellipsoid magnets? Or pyramids? (It?s in vogue right now). Or even simply cubes but diagonally magnetized?
3. Make the working model as credible as possible and pack it in stories, legends and good marketing. Add conspiracy theory elements! (This is a must). Make the whole story take off.

At 3$/magnet *14 pcs*2k replicators*5% share that?s a mere 4.2k$.
Not too much as a final result, although acceptable for the amount of ?work? done. But the value of total sales (only magnets) is close to 80k. That?s a good ?extra? sale for a company, isn?t it? And marketing is for free, for the same company!
I wouldn?t be surprise if I?d find out that the above-like scenarios are supported (if not initiated) by some interested magnet-manufacturing companies.

If you suspiciously look at the 2k figure, don?t even bother to say that it?s un-realistic assumption. It is not. In fact, considering the world-wide impact through many ?marketing? channels (many dedicated sites, you tube and other movie sites, forums, e-mails, even e-bay!) the figure may be well underestimated.  Out of stock occurrences prove it.

That?s why you should continuously believe that PMMs are possible to build!
And it would be nice to make as many you can to believe the same! After all, it was undoubtedly proven!

Cheers,
Tinu

[spacetrax]

Hi,
let ?s be realistic, the energy that the PMM produces making 10 full turns - if any - is much less than the energy required to magnetize the magnets. So, there is no OU here.
I spent enough money on magnets and I tried quite hard to make a real PMM but I failed to succeed to date.

Cheers,
Spacetrax

"...However, he seems to know what is in my mind without asking him, so he begun telling me about magnets. they are like batteries whose energy is very hard to extract, once loaded, that is why the magnets hold their field for tens of years, and this fact lead many people to the FALSE IDEA that a motor made with permanent magnets would run for many years withoud adding energy in the system. But if one tricks the energy out of the magnets, making a magnet motor with them, they will demagnetise quite quickly, maybe in a few days, so this is not a real overunity system.
/Spacetrax

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Just the contrary, show me a magnetic motor working for a very short time, say making 10 full turns in a row on its own while self starting and then try to argue with me it isn't OU.
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[Yadaraf]

Omni,

Have you been following Magnacoasters?

... http://www.youtube.com/magnacoastermotors

Apparently they are going into production with a system that "expends" neodymiums over a 10 year period.


Cheers,   

Yada..
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[Honk]

let ?s be realistic, the energy that the PMM produces making 10 full turns - if any - is much less than the energy required to magnetize the magnets. So, there is no OU here.
I spent enough money on magnets and I tried quite hard to make a real PMM but I failed to succeed to date.

You are wrong about this.
There is no need to produce the same amount of manufacturing electricity in a predetermined number of turns to define overunity.
As long as the motor will spin and deliver a useful torque capable of doing work it is considered being OU without doubt.
The power used when manufacturing a magnet has nothing do with the OU capacity.
They will not get drained. This is just an old myth hanging around. You should really use the link I sent you. Then you'll get the hang of it.